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The elusive AFCI device?? #213333
04/11/14 02:49 PM
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Today I have on my desk, a Leviton AFCI device.

AFTR1-W, 15 amp, 120 volt/20 amp, 120 volt feed thru.

Finally available at a local supply house.


John
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Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213336
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Pictures !!!!

Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213339
04/11/14 04:37 PM
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Maybe tonite when I get home.


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04/11/14 06:23 PM
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Are you going to show it to your fellow inspectors, take it home and then disassemble it to see what's inside?
laugh

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Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213341
04/11/14 09:01 PM
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I saw one yesterday at my 15hr review on the 2014 NEC. They can only be used in a box with 4-wires...not including grounds. Also if there is a 3-wire entering the box...it can't be installed...according to the instructions...

Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213342
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Now on January 1st 2014... according to 406.4(D)(4) of the 2011 NEC...replacements need AFCI protection or not?

What's your interpretation???

Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213343
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Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213344
04/11/14 10:33 PM
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Specs claim series and parallel arc protection but they don't call it a "combination type"

Curious why that is?

The code never refers to a receptacle outlet type AFCI as combination type either?

Re: The elusive AFCI device?? [Re: HotLine1] #213349
04/12/14 01:01 PM
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Electure:

No, I have no plans to disassemble it, and no plans to install it in my house. And where did you get that pic?

The other inspectors are looking at it.

I have been to both Leviton and P&S Legrand websites many, many times looking at this illusive device that is finally arrived.

I did not thoroughly read the instructions; seems like there are at least three languages in the box. Stickers to put on downstream receptacles included.

Pics forthcoming


John
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04/12/14 04:47 PM
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I've got an almost insatiable habit of taking things apart
If you'll field testing at home, all the better smile

The pic came from a Google Image search for "Mad Scientist"
It seemed to fit the scenario laugh

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