ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
Video door bell causing chime activation of coil
by crselectric. 12/16/18 02:12 PM
Our Company!
by faradaygroup. 12/15/18 09:23 PM
Pull out fuse panel?
by wa2ise. 12/14/18 05:09 PM
Conduit fill Calculations
by gfretwell. 12/08/18 08:39 PM
Swimming Pool question
by HotLine1. 12/05/18 12:37 PM
New in the Gallery:
What is this for?
Plug terminals
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 9 guests, and 13 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Box extenders and metal mud rings #203977
11/03/11 11:24 PM
11/03/11 11:24 PM
B
BigB  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 734
Tucson, AZ USA
Does anyone know of a box extender that will work with 2 gang metal p rings? I tried Arlington but the only way they will fit is if you trim them down to where there is practically nothing left.

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: BigB] #204033
11/04/11 11:40 PM
11/04/11 11:40 PM
M
mikethebull  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 101
Rhode Island
I used some plastic extensions from the supply house that coe in different colors for different depths black,red, blue , green I thought they were Arlington

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: BigB] #204040
11/05/11 11:08 AM
11/05/11 11:08 AM
K
KJay  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 763
MA, USA
Have you tried the Raco 976 metal goof rings? I used them a few times in the past and they seemed to have a slightly smaller profile than the plastic extension rings. They work with one or two-gang switch boxes, one-gang handy boxes and one-gang plaster rings where the device is centered, so maybe they will work with two-gang plaster rings.

I know those plastic Arlington BE1 and BE2 rings generally work okay with two-gang plaster rings for depths greater than around 5/8" or so, but because they are tapered like a wedge, I find they usually don’t fit well and the screw holes don’t align properly with the plaster rings for shallower depths less than 5/8" without some cutting and modifications.
If you’re using the two-gang BE-2, you might have better luck using two of the one-gang BE-1 extensions, as that might give you a little more wiggle room for adjustment.

Raco 976

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: KJay] #204111
11/13/11 01:19 AM
11/13/11 01:19 AM
B
BigB  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 734
Tucson, AZ USA
Kjay,

Our inspector won't let us use those as they have no UL listing. I am just going to have to use the Arlington plastic ones and butcher them up. I had fair luck with cutting the corners out with a Dremmel Multi Max.

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: BigB] #204116
11/13/11 11:42 AM
11/13/11 11:42 AM
K
KJay  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 763
MA, USA
There’s also these plastic receptXtenders. They are UL listed and come in both one and two gang with a different color for each depth size. Since these mount on the outside of the box, instead of inside like the Arlington’s do, it seems like they should work better with the plaster rings. Supposedly these are available at HD, but you can also order direct from the manufacturer. I think these may be what Mike was referring to in his post earlier.

receptXtenders

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: KJay] #204131
11/15/11 12:31 AM
11/15/11 12:31 AM
B
BigB  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 734
Tucson, AZ USA
I like those, might have to get some. Thanks

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: BigB] #204138
11/15/11 09:25 PM
11/15/11 09:25 PM
dougwells  Offline

Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,149
kamloops BC Canada
I have a couple issues with the arlinton BE Box extenders older metal boxes the extender sometimes wont pass the internal romex clamps and some older outlet boxes have machine screws extending inside the box that hold on a bracket like these [Linked Image]

Re: Box extenders and metal mud rings [Re: dougwells] #204144
11/16/11 04:31 PM
11/16/11 04:31 PM
K
KJay  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 763
MA, USA
I remember the old BE-1’s had the corners slit so they could fold in as they went in the box and they seemed to work better with that style of gangable old work box than the newer BE-1’s with the solid tapered corners do. I think Arlington had to change the design a few years back to get them UL Listed. I know the old ones with the slit corners weren’t UL listed. I think I may still actually have some of the old style ones on the shelf somewhere around here.



Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
Lostazhell
Lostazhell
Bakersfield, CA (Originally Orange Co.)
Posts: 1,431
Joined: February 2004
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Popular Topics(Views)
252,249 Are you busy
189,203 Re: Forum
178,888 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.027s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9942 MB (Peak: 1.1575 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-12-16 22:06:17 UTC