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Thank you John-
Here if we add a bedroom or go over a certain %ft of an existing dwelling then it must come up to current code.
Not the existing wiring,but new and the smokes and new ckts etc.
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You can't in good conscience tell me that you price in AFCI on a service change can you? Nope. Since their not required on a panel change, I don’t price them into the job. I generally offer them as an option though, but with a disclaimer that there may be additional, extra cost, changes to the existing wiring needed due to things like shared neutrals, etc. Usually because of the high added cost to low benefit ratio, they will pass on them, as I would.
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Thank you folks,
I was starting to doubt myself,I read it and thought no AFCI.
I have a few upgrades coming up and did not carry AFCI.
Then some code conversations have taken place with fellow sparkies and the interpretations were coming out.
Must admit,I was starting to sweat,hopeing I wouldn't lose my shirt.
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Leland,
Here in NJ it used to be that if you hit 50% of the house, you would have to bring it all up to code, but now as John stated we have a "Rehab" code.
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I am an electrical inspector and I would require afci's The rule of thumb is what ever you pull apart has to go back together with today's code as if it's new construction
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Would you consider a service upgrade,residential,'modifying branch ckts'? Hence the need for AFCI.
IMO No, this is regarding the change to add AFCI when adding to or modifying an existing ckt.
There seems to be a wide variety of opinions in some of my circles. Some of whom are inspectors.
Thanx guys. No because you are just changing the panel and not adding new circuits... 
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Leo,
Nice puppy. Would that be a Terrier of some sorts?
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Leo, you would not enforce AFCI breakers in a new panel that is part of an service upgrade? Why not? Just seeking a differnet perspective
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Sparkyinak:
As Kjay, Leland, and Leo are all in the Commonwealth of Mass.; they ALL should be on the same page based on Ma. state adoption of the current NEC.
I stated NJ state position on this matter, which sounds similar to Ma.
I have to ask you if Alaska has a statewide adopted NEC??
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betcha there's some back door politics on this one fella's...
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