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architects #200419 03/31/11 09:07 PM
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I started roughing in an addition on tuesday. It isn't too big, maybe 1800sf. I spent the day laying out and mounting boxes and cans. I think there were about 38 cans. All on dimmers. There were architectural drawings that called for 5", however the homeowner has given the gc some discretion and in an effort to save the ho a little money the gc decided to install 6". The Arch. almost had a heart attack when he realized this. "These are only for commercial". Hey you, come back, were over here in the real world.

Even in this small installation, talking to him, he doesn't have a clue what things cost or where it is practical to use them. Not that 5" are cost prohibitive, they are just more. Also, $1500.00 for cove lighting that does the same thing as rope.

Is seems that most architects draw the house and then never come back to critique their work. That's how I like it.

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Re: architects [Re: schenimann] #200420 03/31/11 09:50 PM
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I find that the majority of the Architects that I deal with could care less what anything costs...it's being paid for with someone else's money.


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Re: architects [Re: schenimann] #200421 03/31/11 10:18 PM
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All you have to do is look at the ads in Architectural Digest.


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Re: architects [Re: gfretwell] #200426 04/01/11 07:10 AM
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i always figured Architect and Archangle a tad too close in the dictonary.....

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Re: architects [Re: schenimann] #200428 04/01/11 08:39 AM
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Comments similar to this have been around as long as I can remember:

"Using 'spec' fixtures is a 'known' method of increasing an architects income."

That said, architects will 'supervise' or 'manage' any project they are involved in for an additional 'fee'.

As an EC, I dealt with many architects and engineers, the majority of which were professional gentlemen. Yes, it is very unusual to have an architect on a resi job.


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Re: architects [Re: schenimann] #200433 04/01/11 09:10 AM
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I'm surprised that the Architect (AT)even cared. I have been on so many jobs where the AT would draw something on paper, not even to code and then add footnotes saying something like, "To be determined in the field"!


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