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Cutting brick out #197848
12/23/10 04:21 PM
12/23/10 04:21 PM
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sparkync  Offline OP
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When installing an outside outlet or light, I'm use to outlining the box to be cut in and using a roto hammer or hammer drill and chiesel to cut out the hole. I had a helper recently mentioned an air tool that might make this job a whole lot easier and neater. Anyone have any suggestions as to what he might be talking about or some other tool that might make it easier? Thanks for the input.... Steve
By the way, I'm talking about brick here. I forgot to mention that:)

Last edited by sparkync; 12/23/10 04:22 PM.
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Re: Cutting brick out [Re: sparkync] #197850
12/23/10 07:40 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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He may be talking about an air chisel. They do work but you need a lot of air.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Cutting brick out [Re: gfretwell] #197852
12/23/10 09:45 PM
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Tesla  Offline
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Fein Multimaster is state of the art for straight cuts.

For circular cuts there are some tungsten carbide hole saws specifically designed for rough cutting exterior walls. These are NOT the ones used to knock-out sheet metal. They have a gritty, ultra rough, abrasive style edge. It permits attack on stucco and brick.

Normally pitched to plumbers, IIRC they are imported from Denmark. I just can't remember the band name.

Skip the air powered tools. Just too much trouble to set up for field work. They suck down energy -- meaning that you need 25Amps at 240V to keep up with your tempo. Most of that energy is lost in compression and expansion.





Tesla
Re: Cutting brick out [Re: Tesla] #197854
12/23/10 10:51 PM
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When I was cutting into block and concrete I used a side grinder with a diamond wheel to outline the cut and the air chisel to break out the meat but like Tesla says, you need a lot of power. I only have a 1HP compressor with a big tank but I had to chip a while, stop and let the tank fill up and chip some more. If you just had those little sausage tanks on a pancake compressor you would be there a while.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Cutting brick out [Re: gfretwell] #197864
12/24/10 03:24 PM
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KJay  Offline
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I have a smaller Bosch 11224VSR SDS rotary hammer that works pretty good for that kind of stuff. It can drill the outline and inner holes for the box location quickly and has enough chipping power with a 3/4" or 1-1/2" chisel to make fairly clean cuts.
If I use anything larger, like an 1-1/2" hammer, I'm asking for trouble, like cracking the mortar joint and popping the whole brick loose.
Although, I have been thinking of trying my big hammer with a heavy-wall core bit to make a hole for a round fixture box at some point.

I also use a 4" angle grinder with the dry-cut blade as mentioned. It does work great cutting brick, but it's kind of hard to use for something like a one-gang box without over cutting the corners.
I've got one of those Rockwell Sonicrafter multi-cutters, but I have never tried to cut brick with it before.

Re: Cutting brick out [Re: KJay] #197866
12/24/10 04:06 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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On the one gang you drill the corners and connect the dots with the angle grinder to get a clean edge. You are still chipping out most of the meat. A 2" - 2 1/4" hole saw would help you there. I do find the air chisel gives you pretty good control without really banging the wall that hard.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Cutting brick out [Re: sparkync] #197894
12/26/10 09:09 PM
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I used to use the old 1/4" masonary bit trick. (drill a ton of little holes). Then I went to the grinder with a diamond wheel. Before putting up the tools (for a pen and code book) I was using the grinder and a small chisel bit that fit in my SDS drill.

Re: Cutting brick out [Re: sparkync] #197895
12/26/10 09:15 PM
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Steve Miller  Offline
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SDS drill, small (3/16) bit, a lot of little holes then a 1" chisel bit in the SDS. Piece of cake and very, very few screw ups.

Re: Cutting brick out [Re: Steve Miller] #197940
01/02/11 10:52 AM
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sparky  Offline
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that's pretty much the way i do it too

just that, in my case 'little rotational tool up on ladder' seemed a tad safer than 'big rotational tool up on ladder'

A conclusion i came to after i found that i don't bounce as well as i used to....

~S~


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