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Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: Trumpy] #191678 01/07/10 01:30 AM
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Also bear in mind that these light fittings use 230V, not the 120V that they do in the US.
We also have RCD protection on our lighting circuits in domestic installations.

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Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: Trumpy] #191681 01/07/10 10:28 AM
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Mike, funny you should mention that ....

Fixtures with bases like the ones in the artwork (so-called "keyless" lampholders) are often in utility rooms, etc., where they are mounted on the wall, at about head height. Easy reaching distance. Likewise, they're used in attics and crawl spaces.

More to the point, we find light sockets within reach of any kid in the table lamp next to our favorite chair.

Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: renosteinke] #191685 01/07/10 02:20 PM
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gfretwell Offline
When I was a kid most of my experimentation was with C-7 lamps like nightlights and Christmas lights. For some reason parents don't see those as dangerous as a regular Edison base lamp.
The availability of discarded hardware around this time of year made them irresistible.
You did find out pretty fast that the old "series" C-4 bulbs didn't last very long at 120v.
"Somebody taking pictures"?

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Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: gfretwell] #192197 02/01/10 09:31 AM
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harold endean Offline

RCD protection? Did I miss something in a post? Or is it just too early on a monday morning and I am not awake yet? smile

Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: harold endean] #196695 10/21/10 09:24 PM
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Well I just can't wait for all the trouble TR will cause once it gets adopted here (soon).

I did a small device changeout job for one of my nicest older customers recently. He picked up the stuff at the box store and I came over to put it in. One of the problems with letting them get their own stuff is that invariably something shows up that is the wrong type or color or both. Both in this case, some light almond mixed with the ivory and a few TR receptacles. I hadn't noticed the TR until I put a couple in and he said just leave them. The next day he called and said with his arthritis he couldn't plug anything into them and could I stop by and replace them.

This is the same kind of "one size fits all" solution that has elderly people leaving the caps off of their medication once they get them off the first time. Bad idea.

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Re: 2011: Tamper Resistant Receptacles [Re: ChicoC10] #196739 10/25/10 09:36 AM
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I have already have people ask me if they can remove the TR receptacles. Of course I said no, but what they do after I inspect??????? Some of our senior citizens do not like them, but again ??? We shall have to see.

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