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#195304 07/24/10 09:07 PM
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Opened my electric bill today, and out pops a 'new rate' notice, effective 6/1/2010

This is a topic that is floating within the "Demise of electric heat" thread

RS (Residential Service) SUMMER RATES
Customer charge $ 2.20
Basic Generation (Excludes BGS Recon Chg/Credit)
First 600 KWHr .123378 per KWHr
Over 600 KWHr .132636 per KWHr

Delivery Charges
First 600 KWHr .042880 per KWHr
Over 600 KWHr .091016 per KWHr

Winter Rate
Customer Charge $ 2.20
Basic Generation .126094 per KWHr
Delivery Charge .053277 per KWHr

We also have Resi Time-of-Day Service
Customer Charge $ 5.28
Basic Generation
On-Peak KWHr .197115 per KWHr
Off-Peak KWHr .086206 per KWHr

Delivery Charge
On-Peak KWHr .074402 per KWHr
Off-Peak KWHr .048468 per KWHr

Winter Rates
Customer Charge $ 5.28
Basic Generation
On-Peak KWHr .179277 per KWHr
Off-Peak .086206 per KWHr

Delivery Charge
On-Peak .061482 per KWHr
Off-Peak .048468 per KWHr.

Resi Geothermal & Heat Pump service rates are identical to the Resi Time-of-Day rates

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You must have Smart meters, to allow for time of day charge.

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'Smart meters' have been 'replacements' by our POCOs for a while. Personally, I still have a 'dumb' meter at my house.

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I just got my bill

Customer Charge $5.90
Storm Charge $1.25
Franchise charge $7.16
Tax $5.97

Fuel Charge
First 1000 kwh $.038570
over 1000 kwh $.048570

First 1000 kwh $.046990
over 1000 kwh $.056990

Bottom line 2327 kwh costs $245.91 or 10.57 cents/kwh

Just for gee whiz info that is equal to 13.54a @ 240v 24/7.

At a dime a kwh it will certainly take a long time to pay back $8 a watt solar collectors when my solar contractor says I can only count on 5-6 hours a day at the rated output.
That is something like 33 years before the rebates.

Greg Fretwell
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Use my rates and that 2327 KWHr would cost $ 485.00 Plus, customer chg, and taxes based on our summer rates. Rough number of .21 censt a KWHr.

That cuts your payback roughly to 16+ years w/o rebates.

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Looks like your power is a little expensive, here is what out current residential rates are in Cdn $.

Monthly Basic Charge:

NOT Exceeding 200 Amp $6.85

Exceeding 200 Amp $13.70

Energy Charge:
First 900 kWh @ 6.38 /kWh
Balance of kWh @ 6.57 /kWh

Min bill is basic monthly charge.

mbhydro #195437 08/03/10 01:34 AM
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Customer charge- (my pleasure to do business with them)
Distribution charge-(see above)
0.03348 - 1st 15 KWH
Transmission charge- Aint that the same as distribution ?
(maybe it's just me)
Energy 'efficiency' charge- (aren't I doing that already?)
Renewable energy charge- (Again- see above)
All are X 15 KWH


My basic is - 0.0811X15KWH

Not so bad- I have had the AC running and the pool heater too. $6.08 for the month.

Last month was $36.00- but still...

I got no complaints.

Last edited by leland; 08/03/10 01:39 AM.
leland #195442 08/03/10 09:31 AM
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Are you kidding? $36 for a month with pool & AC?

Our (NJ) poco bills used to have a lot of 'items', but...there all condensed into the numbers above, excluding tax and a BGS Recon Chg/Credit.

De-regulation would allow energy purchase from other suppliers (generation), but I wonder if it's worth the hassles.

Nice that you're back & posting


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