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How is 2010 shaping up for you? #192713
02/26/10 07:27 PM
02/26/10 07:27 PM
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KJay  Offline OP
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 763
MA, USA
So, now that we are almost three months in to it, has 2010 been better or worse than you had hoped it would be so far?
Personally, I think it smells like the same dung... just a whole new pile.

On the plus side though, I believe I have found a guaranteed way to loose any small resi bid that comes around these days.
It's the last line on my estimates, which reads, Electrical Permit/Inspection Fee: City or Town of...

Almost every one of the potential resi service customers that I meet with lately to give that "free" estimate to has the same reply when I bring the subject up... You mean you need to pull a permit for this... really...? Oh, I didn't know that. That statement alone is a sure sign that they won't be calling me back for that work.

I don't mean to sound bitter, but unfortunately it seems like the '08 NEC is more of a hindrance than an ally to legitimate EC's in this economy, at least here in my area. Even if the job only involved adding a few circuits, some additional lighting or simply extending a couple of existing circuits, that represents an additional $150.00 just for the AFCI cb's and TR or even WR/TR receptacles that the lowballer who got the job is not going to use or even concern himself with.
That's a pricing advantage I would like to have in this tight economy. smile

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Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: KJay] #192715
02/26/10 09:20 PM
02/26/10 09:20 PM
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EV607797  Offline
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
2010 has been absolutely horrible here. January is usually weak for us anyway, but February has ended up being even worse. Sadly, I don't see any movement on the frontier until the November mid-term elections. The past year hasn't been filled with the "change and hope" that I was expecting.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: EV607797] #192717
02/26/10 09:28 PM
02/26/10 09:28 PM
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Rewire  Offline
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Posts: 165
Missouri
We have focused on the servioce side for the last several years no our repeat customers are keeping us going

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: Rewire] #192728
02/27/10 06:16 PM
02/27/10 06:16 PM
CDS  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 34
Nicholson Ga
Business not so good here , like other poster , we are trying to focus on service , unfortunately it is slow too .
I think we can make it , but like you say , bidding seems to be futile these days

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: CDS] #192741
02/28/10 08:45 PM
02/28/10 08:45 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,948
Brick, NJ USA
FWIW, I hear from many EC's that the comm market here is brutal for bids. Comm reno & tenant fit-ups is extreemly tight bids, and there's no 'loyalty' to any EC's.

I see guys traveling from all areas of the state, even for small resi jobs.



John
Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: HotLine1] #192745
02/28/10 10:05 PM
02/28/10 10:05 PM
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Rewire  Offline
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Posts: 165
Missouri
The advantage to service is you tend to get a more loyal customer as most have been burned by the fly by nite guy. My repeat customers know what I charge so no bid wars.

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: Rewire] #192747
02/28/10 10:33 PM
02/28/10 10:33 PM
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mossyoak660  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3
KY
This has been the worst 2 months i have ever had.We have 3 employees that i hope tuff it out with me. Going from40 hrs plus to 24hrs plus is really tough on us all.

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: mossyoak660] #192756
03/02/10 11:03 AM
03/02/10 11:03 AM
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Rewire  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 165
Missouri
weather finnally breaking so we are starting a new church this week the phone is beginnig to ring and work is starting to pick up. I have called one guy back and hope by the end of the month to bring back another.Caution is still the watch word but survival looks better each day.

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: Rewire] #192765
03/02/10 04:49 PM
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Belgariad  Offline
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10
Linwood, NC, United States
So far this year is as slow for me as last. See no signs of any improvement on the horizon. Hope it picks up soon.

Re: How is 2010 shaping up for you? [Re: Belgariad] #192916
03/10/10 10:51 AM
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Rewire  Offline
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Missouri
The combination of nice weather and income tax refunds has improved the work picture

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