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#188043 - 07/18/09 10:59 PM Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd  
cgw  Offline
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I need to make a pedestal for a small meter and panelboard. It will be permanent (at a park). I was thinking of two 2-1/2" galvanized angles in holes (in the ground with concrete) and galvanized kindorf between them.
What would you do?


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#188047 - 07/19/09 02:13 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
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They make a concrete post with a flanged top for trailer services that might just do the trick


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#188050 - 07/19/09 10:58 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: gfretwell]  
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Do you mean like this?:

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In place of that small panel, look at whay they call an "all in one."

Another good choice is to purchase a pre-made pedestal; you might even save some money.

Anyway, the pressure-treated post gets set 3ft. down, and a little concrete doesn't hurt. A larger panel would probably benefit from a bacjing board. make sure all holes are plugged, and that you maintain the space between the post and the panel.

You need to pipe to a spot under the trailer and set a junction box; make sure the trailer cable can reach! The pipe needs to be 24" down - there's an additional HUD standard, in addition to the NEC.

What size service? Look for the nametag on the trailer. Treat the trailer as if it were a big toaster - not like it were a home.

You also need a ground rod. If your trench is 30" deep, you can lay the rod in the trench.


#188064 - 07/20/09 10:30 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
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It is an 100 amp service for a park (a town park).


#188069 - 07/20/09 06:32 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
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Midwest (midwestelectric.com) has a combination meter chanel / panel that would work. Look at Products / Service Entrance.
There is a photo of what would do the trick.


#188234 - 07/26/09 03:50 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: WNYJim]  
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Keep in mind the pedestal is a structure, and all subsequent panels will be sub panels and addressed as sub panels.

A 4X4 treated post is what I would use for a small one. Two 4x4's with a back board for bigger panels.


#188237 - 07/26/09 07:31 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: JValdes]  
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Get a little farther south and we say 6x6 .80 PT or that concrete deal I was talking about. (bugs eat'um)
The concrete posts look like a McDonalds coffee stirrer on top. It is a flat surface about 24x18 cast on the end of a 4x4 concrete pole. They put an "all in one" up on one of those for a trailer disco.
Maybe that is just a Florida thing.


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#188300 - 07/29/09 11:37 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: gfretwell]  
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I use metered pedestals. Pacific Utility Products has the USP16-M2100 that has a covered meter and a 12 space panel integrated. You set them on a concrete footer, so there's no need for sticks and exposed conduit, etc. They come in either painted or stainless steel and look 10X better than a 4X4 with a box stuck to it.

If it's a permanent installation, why not do it right?



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