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Kerosene area Classifaction???? #186979
06/09/09 09:37 AM
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Yoopersup  Offline OP
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Class??? in Article 500??

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Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #186980
06/09/09 10:06 AM
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Kerosene is not generally considered to create a classified location.

Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: renosteinke] #186981
06/09/09 10:15 AM
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Whats its Flash Point???

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Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #186982
06/09/09 10:48 AM
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Looked in 2005 NEC Handbook Page 658 (KEROSENE) is there.Flash Point 72% C. looks like Class 2 (A)or Class 1 Division Group D. ?? listed two places. Check it our .
Theres an Area with Diesel Fuel, & Kerosene.
Diesel Fuel I think NO.
Kerosene looks like yes .
Any comments ????

Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #186986
06/09/09 08:43 PM
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K-1 maybe, kerosene is a generic term, it would depend on the product. The oil company should be able to tell you flash point

Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #186987
06/09/09 08:52 PM
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Ernie:
Based on a quick read, I'm leaning to "same as diesel". If I had to make an official 'call'; I would do some additional research.




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Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: HotLine1] #186997
06/09/09 10:07 PM
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Careful here ... home oil heating units do not require any "haz loc" wiring - and kerosene / fuel oil / diesel / jet fuel are all essentially the same thing. Nor should we forget the sundry decorative oil-filled 'candles' that are actually filled with scented kerosene.

Last edited by renosteinke; 06/09/09 11:40 PM.
Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: renosteinke] #187003
06/10/09 07:02 AM
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Yoopersup,
What sort of an installation is this referring to?

I know for a fact that choppers I have flown run on a variant of Kerosene and it has a flash point of about 250C.

One other thing I do know, through experience as a FF, is that kerosene has the habit to change from a liquid to vapour very easily, about the same as propane, but not with the explosive force.

Unlike propane, the fumes from kerosene will drift upwards.


Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #187009
06/10/09 10:37 AM
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Looked it up on the net . Flash point 37-65c .
Auto Ignition Temperature 220C

Still Page 658 NEC Code Handbook info????
Class 1 division group D
Flash point 72
Class zone group IIA

Location is Storage Deisel & Kerosene.

Last edited by Yoopersup; 06/10/09 10:39 AM.
Re: Kerosene area Classifaction???? [Re: Yoopersup] #187026
06/10/09 10:49 PM
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Yoop:
Yes, I read the Handbook info & agree with you on that. There's a lot of info that has to be read regarding that table, which I have not read due to time constraints. I have not had a job with kero dispensers, so I have no 'field' quick answer for ya.

Perhaps reach out a PM to 'Walrus'...he's a service station guy.



John
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