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Nema 3r panel board #183896
01/25/09 10:07 PM
01/25/09 10:07 PM
Obsaleet  Offline OP
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Hi Guys,
I am trying to put together a price for a commercial customer. They have a stable riding rink(indoor) a maintance shed and are adding electric heat to the stable. Long story short there is no basement or place on the interior of any of the structures to put a panel board. I am using a self contained 600a 1 phase meter, and was going to go with refeed 200a to riding rink, 100a to maintance, refeed 200a existing stable load center and add new 200a load center. I contacted my Square D supplier and was told they don't make a 3r enclosure. I am having a hard time with this? Any suggestions ?

Ob


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Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: Obsaleet] #183898
01/25/09 11:08 PM
01/25/09 11:08 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Ob:
Sq D doesn't make a 3R panel?

QO342MQ200RB.....200 amp MCB, 42 circ.

Also in Homline, within the Sq D digest.

You can cross in the Grainger catalog.


John
Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: HotLine1] #183899
01/26/09 12:03 AM
01/26/09 12:03 AM
Obsaleet  Offline OP
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Thanks John,
I'm sorry it is hard to be clear. I am looking for a panel board 120/240v 600a Nema 3r. Sq d only makes a 3 phase unit, as best I can tell. I find it hard to beleive this is not more common.

Ob


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Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: Obsaleet] #183900
01/26/09 02:28 AM
01/26/09 02:28 AM
renosteinke  Offline
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First ... there's no reason different buildings can't have different services; you don't need to run it all through one main.

Second, you can't do that sort of service change without chatting with the power company. I wonder what they might say.

For that kind of service, you're talking about a CT, not a simple meter. This, in turn, points us toward switchgear. Let Sq D build a cabinet. The cabinets are at least 3R. They make these, to order, all the time. Breakers in the gear will feed your various other panels.

Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: renosteinke] #183901
01/26/09 02:50 AM
01/26/09 02:50 AM
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NORCAL  Offline
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Looked at a old Siemens catalog & they build 600A 120/240V 1 switchboards in NEMA 1 & 3R as warehouse stock & am sure SQ D, C-H, & GE do likewise.

Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: NORCAL] #183922
01/27/09 01:06 AM
01/27/09 01:06 AM
Obsaleet  Offline OP
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Norcal,
You so right. I contacted another supplier and got a quote today for a powerline unit. Made to order. Called the Sq D supplier and they are going to get back to me. Probably with a quote. Makes me want to do business with Eaton. Sq D can be so upity sometimes.

Thanks for your assistance!!

Phil(Ob)


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Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: Obsaleet] #184002
01/30/09 01:39 AM
01/30/09 01:39 AM
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Narrowbackpride  Offline
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Tac,WA
Have you looked at CT cabs or 6 gang meter stacks with shunts and pie plates? I am sorry if I am missing somthing.


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Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: Narrowbackpride] #184009
01/30/09 10:01 AM
01/30/09 10:01 AM
Obsaleet  Offline OP
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Hi Guys,
Got my pricing from Sq D today. All is good. The price was even a good one, within dollars of Eaton. Apparently its a fairly common probuct that is not listed in there catalog. I guess it is still special order.


Ob


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Re: Nema 3r panel board [Re: Obsaleet] #184058
01/31/09 02:36 PM
01/31/09 02:36 PM
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JBD  Offline
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Posts: 599
WI, USA
Loadcenters are simply cost reduced versions of popular panels. Because there is not much call for a 1PH 600A 3R panel I am sure SqD simply quoted you a price on a standard panelboard. (see their Digest 174 page 9-6)


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