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Another scam product? #181145
09/23/08 09:21 PM
09/23/08 09:21 PM
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schenimann  Offline OP
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 193
Western North Carolina
I was eating at Chili's last week and the waitress saw my electrical work shirt. She is trying to sell these and wanted to know if I would be interested in installing them. I'm not really interested, but has anyone tried these or something like them?

https://www.ecoquestintl.com/CatalogProduct.aspx?ProductId=3589

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Re: Another scam product? [Re: schenimann] #181151
09/23/08 10:56 PM
09/23/08 10:56 PM
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EV607797  Offline
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
First red flag: Misspelled word (Licenced) vs: Licensed on their Web page.

Second red flag: "Power conditioning" without a true input and output? Yeah, OK.

I think that it is just a box full of MOVs, if there is anything inside it at all. Snake oil for sure. If it was that good, they wouldn't have to resort to waitresses handing out cards for their boyfriend's new way to pay the rent.

Yeah, you can scare people into buying these if you want to. Rest assured that the nickels and dimes that people might think they are saving will take decades to justify the expense. Like people who play the lottery every day, there is a very good chance that they will spend more money than they save.

Want to save money on your electric bill? Reduce consumption. NO magic box can do this for you.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
Re: Another scam product? [Re: EV607797] #181160
09/24/08 02:06 AM
09/24/08 02:06 AM
dougwells  Offline

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Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,145
kamloops BC Canada
This item seems to be the fastest growing multi level marketing product since Amway smile
Kidding aside there is youtube videos on that item and even our ECN chat has been targeted with guys trying to sell that Item

Re: Another scam product? [Re: EV607797] #181173
09/24/08 12:31 PM
09/24/08 12:31 PM
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mikesh  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 613
Victoria, BC, Canada
Licenced is not mis-spelled except in the US. Have a look at the Oxford dictionary. Just another case of the US not liking the rule and making their own to suit. wink
As for the box, it is at best a filter for power factor correction and in a house they are not going to save much if anything. I can't imagine the utility applying a penalty for poor power factor to a house.
More snake oil promising something for nothing.

Re: Another scam product? [Re: mikesh] #181176
09/24/08 01:55 PM
09/24/08 01:55 PM
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ghost307  Offline
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 943
Chicago Illinois USA
When I look at their "Specifications" sheet, it's just a 16 page ad that has questions and answers on it.
IMHO, this thing is 100% carp...and I don't mean the fish.
wink


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Re: Another scam product? [Re: ghost307] #181231
09/26/08 09:08 AM
09/26/08 09:08 AM
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Zapped  Offline
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Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 482
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Garbage. A couple of LEDs in a shiny box. Why didn't I think of that?

Re: Another scam product? [Re: Zapped] #181269
09/27/08 09:38 PM
09/27/08 09:38 PM
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twh  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 945
Regina, Sask.
It has a 30 microfarad capacitor. That's got to be worth something. I've been tossing the capacitors when I change ballasts on M.H. fixtures. I should have been putting cords on them and selling them as power factor correction.

Re: Another scam product? [Re: schenimann] #181331
10/04/08 03:53 AM
10/04/08 03:53 AM
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trevman  Offline
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 47
canada
a better idea is to put in a system where people can look on their computer and see how much hydro or gas their using and monitor whats on or running Ithink homeqwners would like that.

Re: Another scam product? [Re: Zapped] #182052
11/16/08 09:16 PM
11/16/08 09:16 PM
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sparky  Offline
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,349
i can do shiny LED's, i just can't market them well....~S~


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