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Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans #178514
06/03/08 02:07 AM
06/03/08 02:07 AM
bwise121  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 114
Sacramento, CA USA
I've noticed on small commercial buildings that residential cans are installed. Instead of romex, MC cable is run. Recently I changed some bulbs on a job and wrote down the model of the can:

Is it okay to install a residential can and what is the difference? Is it mostly up to the architect?


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Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: bwise121] #178527
06/03/08 03:48 PM
06/03/08 03:48 PM
HotLine1  Offline

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,936
Brick, NJ USA
Why are you saying 'resi can'??

Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: HotLine1] #178531
06/03/08 05:56 PM
06/03/08 05:56 PM
BPHgravity  Offline
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 139
Port Charlotte, Florida
Other than 110.3(B), the code does not distinguish between "residential" and "commercial" products. This is likely a design consideration only.

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Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: BPHgravity] #178537
06/03/08 08:39 PM
06/03/08 08:39 PM
mikethebull  Offline
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 100
Rhode Island
Yeah I don't see what the difference would be a lot of building owners by cans like that because of the cost you can by them cheap at the ORANGE apron place.

Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: mikethebull] #178558
06/04/08 03:37 PM
06/04/08 03:37 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Posts: 6,936
Brick, NJ USA
The OP is in CA.; perhaps a State thing??

Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: HotLine1] #178566
06/04/08 07:40 PM
06/04/08 07:40 PM
electure  Offline

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,265
Fullerton, CA USA
Not a CA thing at all.

Look at all the different grades of wiring devices.
There's residential grade, commercial grade, specifications grade, etc.

Nothing says you can't use specification grade devices in a residence, or "cheapy" residential grade devices in an industrial building. It's a design issue.

The same applies here, to the lighting package.

Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: electure] #178573
06/05/08 09:35 AM
06/05/08 09:35 AM
Zapped  Offline
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 482
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
As electure stated, I've never heard of any regulation, even on the county or city level, making a distinction between these products.

Traditionally, you would use a more robust product in a commercial environment due to long hours of operation, harsher environments, etc. On the other hand, residential usually denotes a stricter budget. These are design and $$ considerations, not parameters designated by any orginization or AHJ that I'm aware of.

Re: Residential vs. Commercial Recessed Cans [Re: Zapped] #178574
06/05/08 10:57 AM
06/05/08 10:57 AM
gfretwell  Offline

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Other than the fact that commercial renovations are generally 100% tax deductible I never understood why you would use a more expensive luminaire in a commercial setting like a strip mall. In a residence people are more likely to actually look at it and most of these strip malls get gutted and rebuilt every 4 or 5 years around here. I am sure most of the space they are building right now will not last 5 years. This looks like the 80s to me where we built several million square feet of commercial in a couple years and never actually rented more than 75% of it.

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