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I found this one in an older control building, in a quasi server room/lunch room/place to get out of the weather in the middle of nowhere... The outlet this was plugged into was tapped off a 30A breaker if I remember right
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Randy tell me that if i am reading on the one device on far left is that surge surpresser ??
jezz, sound like someone came up stupid idea with this and where is GFCI for this ??
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The surge supressor is the unlucky sap who gets shocked by it.
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Randy: I assume that the loose "quad whip" (for lack of any better term) is connected to the box with the yellow supply cord as well.
My suggestion would be to cut the cord off, and toss the whole affair out into the weather and leave it there for about 30 years or so and watch it slowly disintegrate. It sure ain't good for anything else.
Then go after whoever put the outlet on a 30.
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Quite an interesting DIY project!
Let me 'reverse guess' the thoughts that went into making this.
The main plate / flange has mounting holes .... so I suspect that it was originally made to mount on one of those electronic gear racks / cabinets. Mind you, finding a factory-made strip that mounts on the rack hasn't always been easy. Ordinary outlet strips are deliberately designed to make secure mounting difficult.
Then there's the orientation of the receptacles. With the number of things that have 'wall wart' transformers serving as plugs, it's hard to find a power strip that doesn't lose three spaces whenever you plug in one!
The variety of parts suggests that whoever made this scavenged parts, maybe even brought some from home.The coating of whit paint is an .... interesting .... touch.
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Wow, a 16 outlet plug strip, with 4 extra outlets! Where do I get one? Ian A.
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Hey electure - good link. I didnt know those existed.
I should show you guys my 50a 250v power strip.... Its a beast!
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I think you nailed it. They found it, and used it.
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Hey electure - good link. I didnt know those existed. Hmm, if Randy wasn't in CA I'd say it was probably made by the former owner of this house! I should show you guys my 50a 250v power strip.... Its a beast! A friend's father down in trailerville had a contraption like that for his holiday decorations, 50amp stove cord jammed into two screwed together 4sq boxes w/ 5-15s. He got rid of it after the meter reader came out, found the future fire and called for a disconnect. (This was before PECO got around to putting remote-read meters in that section.) Ian A.
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Yes... that is a surge suppressor!
I call these by two names, they are interchangeable: trip & boom or touch & fry! You trip on the cord, it goes boom due to bad strain relief or you touch it and complete a nice ground fault circuit.
The sad thing is they make boxes DESIGNED for use with cords, they have the needed strain relief.... why doesn't anyone use them instead?
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Yes... that is a surge suppressor!
I call these by two names, they are interchangeable: trip & boom or touch & fry! You trip on the cord, it goes boom due to bad strain relief or you touch it and complete a nice ground fault circuit.
The sad thing is they make boxes DESIGNED for use with cords, they have the needed strain relief.... why doesn't anyone use them instead? and it looks like it's @ the end of the line to only protect itself, none of the others
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Scott, great find on the Erico part ... that's what was used!
Now, let's look at this thing from a design standpoint ... let's pretend we work at some place that lists these things ...
Using the 2-scew connectors as cord clamps would be OK if the thing was mounted in place; the connectors are listed for use with both SO and NM. "Portable" strips, though, have a higher strain relief requirement, and they would need to use the ones with the rubber bushings.
For the rest of this anaylsis, I'm going to assume this is intended as a 'portable' power strip.
The ability of the front plate to flex would bother me. I'd want some manner of bracing on the back of those boxes. This might be provided by using 'running thread' between the boxes.
I'd not be happy with the individula wires passing between the boxes like that. Something needs to protect the wires from abrasion. With the openings oriented as they are, I don't think they would need to be closed. I've seen plenty of 'listed' equipment that had wires run like that behind the faceplate.
There's plenty of screws there to work loose. I'd want to see some lock washers. At least they already ran the ground wire to each box.
As a 'power strip' it would be required to have a 15 amp breaker -not fuse- built into it. If it was for 'job site' use, it would also need GFI protection. I think you also need an "off" switch.
Using NM where flexible cord is needed is generally not allowed.
I know that UL has stated that receptacles are not evaluated for use with crimp-connectors (often used for stranded wire), but that's not the same as saying they aren't listed for the use. I think it's time the method be 'evaluated!' There are plenty of appliances that use crimp connectors internally, and I see no reason that using them on receptacles is any less effective.
As for the "trip and boom" fears ... IMO, the ability to securely mount something can make for a safer application. There's one less thing on the floor to stumble over. This is one point where I differ from UL. If Wiremold can do it, why can't the 'portable' strip makers?
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I've seen manufactured products that are roughly equivalent to this, but with a single long box plus mounting flanges for standard 19" rack panels. But are those products so much more expensive, or so hard to find, that people would resort to making their own line this? One I saw had 10 duplex receptacles and a cord with a strain relief and molded plug. But it was priced well over twice what I could make on my own with the above bracket.
Maybe an empty long box would be the better choice over 4 individual boxes that end up with single wires going through unprotected holes in DIY projects. Now we just need to get someone to make such a box and market it. It can either be an open front that comes with a full width faceplate. I'd suggest it be made with the "decora" style rectangular holes to be more flexible in the variety of devices that could be installed (including GFCI and switches). Or the box could be made with the face integrated and a big solid cover on the back that can be removed.
That wouldn't guarantee people would do it right. But it would make it easier for people on the edge to end up with something closer to right.
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I'm surprised no one pointed out that all the receptacles are upside down!
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thats cause the picture is upside down
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