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#172647 - 12/22/07 09:38 PM Service in Downtown Philly  
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I love these guy's who flip these houses, always going for the cheapest price. Well this is what you get for the cheapest price! This is in a high $ area in Downtown Philly.


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#172649 - 12/22/07 09:47 PM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: Admin]  
leland  Offline
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Lowell area, Ma. USA
WOW! Just wow.. Thats the best I have now.

The wood screw and the SE clips are a very nice touch.
And the NM, avoid tite bends, thats good.

#172655 - 12/22/07 11:19 PM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: leland]  
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Is that main breaker being fed from the bottom? I guess they can use that SEU on the line [load] side of the disconnect then.

They must be clairvoyant. How else would they have known in advance that the 42-circuit limit was going to be history in 2008?

Looks like they splurged and went for the copper panel bus, and look… another main breaker of equal or greater value for safety, and none of that annoying separating of the neutral and grounding conductors.

I guess, at least they have the GEC at the main disconnect. I mean the first main disconnect.

Like Gomer Pyle used to say…Shazam!!

Remember..."you can do it, with Home Depot"

#172658 - 12/23/07 03:42 AM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: KJay]  
TOOL_5150  Offline
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Bay Area
Thats ugly. I have never seen PVC straps used as NM straps. THe sweeping bends are a nice touch as well.


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#172659 - 12/23/07 04:44 AM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: KJay]  
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North Attleboro, MA USA
Originally Posted by KJay
Is that main breaker being fed from the bottom?

That in itself is not a violation. smile

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Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#172664 - 12/23/07 10:01 AM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: iwire]  
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"That in itself is not a violation."

That wasn’t really the point, but I believe many electrical inspectors would consider it to be a violation if the manufacturer of the listed equipment assembly designated line and load lug position by marking or labeling them.
I would never do this type of hookup on one of my jobs. wink

#172665 - 12/23/07 10:20 AM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: KJay]  
leland  Offline
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Lowell area, Ma. USA
I'ld like to see the origination point of that flex.

#172670 - 12/23/07 11:36 AM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: Admin]  
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"I love these guys that flip houses ..."

I could not agree more. The frantic mindset of these poseurs, who fancied themselves real estate mavens, is legend.
They go into the proposition expecting to make a few cosmetic changes in a few days, then turn around and sell within the first month - at a substantial profit.

During the sell, they love to claim all manner of improvements. Hard as it is to believe, they actually make realtors look ethical. mad

Unfortunately, these hustlers are not above playing with the electric. For us, this means we will be finding all manner of silliness (and dangers) as we go to repair their 'upgrades.'

#172686 - 12/23/07 01:55 PM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: renosteinke]  
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I'm worried that the white wire that is holding the 90° connector together will come undone and fall apart. Hopefully they used solid wire otherwise that would be just dumb crazy

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#172687 - 12/23/07 02:01 PM Re: Service in Downtown Philly [Re: renosteinke]  
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Levittown, PA
"Gotta get it done now now now!" These fools are just like tract house builders.

Some looney toon flipped a house in the next section over, claimed "All new electrical wiring throughout!" Me and my folks went to the open house, and I peeked in the attic. What did I see? A lot of 1950s NM headed towards the back bedroom closet (where the panel is in some of the Levittowners.) All the receptacles were three-prong, and passed the three-light test, as the guy had those testers plugged in a few places.

The house never sold, looked like crap anyways, and now his bank owns it.

Ian A.

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