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#165445 - 06/27/07 08:58 PM AU: Electricity theft sparks higher penalties  
32VAC  Offline
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 202
Alice Springs, NT, Australia
The New South Wales Government will introduce new legislation to increase the penalties for electricity theft.

The Minister for Energy, Ian MacDonald, says the maximum jail term for stealing power will more than double, from two to five years.

He says the crime is no less serious than the theft of tangible goods, and the new penalties put it in line with a larceny charge.

"These enhanced penalties are about giving a warning to those who wish to steal electricity that it wont be tolerated," he said.

"We're not going to allow electricity theft from the grid to continue, and these penalties will help in this approach."

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#165820 - 07/06/07 03:50 AM Re: AU: Electricity theft sparks higher penalties [Re: 32VAC]  
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Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,223
SI,New Zealand
Gidday Darren,
As an employee of a Lines Company here, it's not the actual theft that worries me, it's the shambolic ways that people use to effect an illegal connection.
I was at a house about 6 years ago, this place has always stuck in my mind for some odd reason, the ripple relay was missing off of the switchboard panel (the panel was on the outer wall of the house, but under cover).
I asked the lady there where it was.
The reply was that her husband had moved it up into the roof, because "it made a funny noise and kept him awake".
Sure enough, get up in the roof and there it is, lying on top of some roof batts and some strange wires coming out of it too.
Traced the wires over to the other side of the house, fed into an air-conditioning unit.
When asked why this was, I was told that her husband was an Electrician and she had taken that he wired the A/C unit into the switch-board when he installed it.
I disconnected the unit and put the ripple relay back on the switch-board.
I left a note on the front of the relay stating: You have been found out, please call (cell no.) for more info and told his wife not to let on, but only tell him that the A/C unit wasn't working.
Guy in the end had his licence suspended for a year over that.
So it goes to show, even registered people can get caught out.

#165891 - 07/07/07 08:31 AM Re: AU: Electricity theft sparks higher penalties [Re: Trumpy]  
djk  Offline
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,237
The trick in Ireland in the past was to tilt the meter forward.
The old meters were mounted indoors on a board and had to be level to read. So, 'hackers' simply removed the screws on the top of the mounting board and tilted the whole thing forward. The meter would stop spinning. When they were finished doing whatever it was they were using all the electricity for e.g. cooking/washing etc they'd tilt it back and tighten the screws.

The ESB started applying seals to the screws and had 'master meters' in cabinets at street level to keep counteract the problem.

Newer meters are unaffected by tilting them - the newest being fully solid state. Also, in modern installations, they're mounted in metering cabinets located outside, so you can't really tamper with them at all.

ESB also requires the meter to be relocated to a cabinet (where possible) if any major rewiring work is done involving the main distribution board.

Personally, I think it's taken far too far. Their metering cabinets are really ugly and far too large. When they're put on the front of a small city centre house they just look ridiculous.

#165895 - 07/07/07 09:00 AM Re: AU: Electricity theft sparks higher penalties [Re: djk]  
pauluk  Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
Same on this side of the Irish Sea. The white boxes are bulky, and often stick out so far that they get in the way when mounted on the fronts of city houses or in side alleys.

#174328 - 02/01/08 09:12 PM Re: AU: Electricity theft sparks higher penalties [Re: pauluk]  
iansettle  Offline
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 19
Now fit electronic meters do my supplier.

But my ex wife was employed by a REC company we had a bubble fitted over meter no access to meter.

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