ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion Building Codes for Electricians Trenching Concrete Floors

I am on a job in a apartment building where the floors are all concrete. The contractor is framming a few areas in he middle of the ceiling to install recesed lights in. He has cut a 2inch deep trench in the ceiling from one lowered ceiling to the new one. The floors are only 8" deep. Would this be a smart thing to do?

The only person who could answer that question is the Engineer who designed the building. If the engineer gave the contractor the go-ahead for this trench and the corresponding repair, then it should be okay.

I agree with Crash.

Any chance these are precast cement decks?

If yes as long as the pre-stressed cables inside are not cut it seems you can do a lot to them, with an engineers OK.

Without an engineers OK this sounds dangerous.

I agree with Crash and Iwire. A structural engineer would need to be involved, and it would seem to me that there would be some specific instructions to the cutting.

Roger

I was going to ask if they were Spancrete, or another type of cellular concrete. Taking 2" out of that could be, uh, problematic.

Get a Structural Engineer's opinion.

I work in mainly new highrise construction. Typical floors are 190mm (approx 7-1/2") and having to chip a shallow trench in the ceiling or floor (to bury BX cable or 1/2" ENT) has not been an issue with the engineers or inspectors so long as the steel isn't cut. Usually we don't have to go deeper than 1" or so, unless there's a spot where the rebar is too shallow and we have to go behind it.

Check with YOUR engineer first though

[This message has been edited by u2slow (edited 02-21-2004).]

Thanks. I was thinking the same.