ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion Building Codes for Electricians Old work or new work?

Was this ever resolved?
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Tom H

I'm like Tom and would like to know too.

I hope I was wrong.

Roger

Ravin hasn't posted since then.

I sent him an email. I'll let you know if he replies. I was curious too.

Hey fellows, Update regarding old/new work. Prior to my involvement,it seems AHJ told HO at time of his permit that if any existing partitions are exposed, that wiring should be installed as new work. When I looked at job to estimate, all the walls were covered with new rock, and HO did not tell me about AHJ instruction and nether did AHJ untill time of inspection. Worse than that for HO, he insulated all exterior walls with out inspection. Ispector was peaved at HO, wanted all rock removed, but since AHJ knows of my workmanship and overall quality of other installations, he only made HO expose areas where I installed new openings, meaning only open that bay, not expose entire wall. What an ordeal, all due to not being informed by HO. Thanks for your interest. Ravin.

So the walls were open then? Before or after you did your wiring? If they were closed before you did your wiring I have no problem with you fishing it in. This is still a legal wiriing method. I am not sure there is any code that specifies at what stage of construction you have to install wiring.

Actually there is....


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Ravin,

What a can of worms. So, is your AHJ a "combination inspector" that is looking at more than one trade's work? Or, do I understand you to say that the HO pulled his own electrical permit?

Had the HO done any wiring under his permit? Or, was all the new wiring done by you?

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Ryan, to me that tells me when the systems must be inspected not when they must be installed. If the wiring was not yet installed there is nothing to inspect. This may be pushing it but what if a homeowner decides to gut, insulate and board a room. Then they realize the should have had the wiring updated. At this point they have an electrical contractor fish in all new wiring. While not ideal to me it is legal.

What I am getting at is what code tells me that if a wall is gutted it must be rewired to current code. And if it must be rewired, must it be rebuilt, replumbed and so on?

A can of worms is correct. As i see it the HO Knew of the requiirement to have any electrical work done as new work and failed to inform the EC of the inspectors' direction to the HO. I hope the HO got an expensive lesson in normal construction practices. The EC probably saved the HO some money because of his good work reputation.

I do not know of any code that requires new wiring,plumbing,etc just because a wall is opened up and replaced.

[This message has been edited by nesparky (edited 04-18-2004).]