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#143691 - 08/21/05 11:06 AM How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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[Linked Image]

This is exactly how you don't plug in a UK or Irish laptop while visiting Germany!

Spotted it on the web

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#143692 - 08/21/05 03:56 PM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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You're right - they got the polarity wrong !! [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


#143693 - 08/21/05 04:52 PM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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Thats ok, the receptacles don't have any L/ N markings either, (in France anyway), so it's got a 50-50 chance! Whatever happened to the two-matchsticks technique?
In 1990 I came to France with a mate who was wanting to buy a house. We made the mistake of bringing a Brit electrician with us to 'evaluate the electrics'. We rented a little house for a week, it was the middle of a bad winter and he literally took the house electrics apart to "see how they do it over here", jerry-rigging stuff all over with matches in his 'Quest for the Truth' and leaving us blacked out and with no lights, cooker or heating for the weekend after shagging the company fuse! Ah! Happy days! Red wine, good food, frostbite.
Alan.
Bit late for a ps but; As we had no electricity, we decided to eat out on the Sun. evening. On the way out of the village in the morning, on a house hunting expedition, we saw a very squashed, very dead chicken on the road outside the café, and joked it'd be cooked for dinner that night. When the proprietaire dished up poulet that night, he stood aghast as we three Anglais collapsed on the floor in fits of laughter!

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#143694 - 08/24/05 02:06 AM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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Hey!,
What's this?.
They haven't trimmed off the excess wire on the Neutral conductor.
Shame on them. [Linked Image]
Someone could get a shock off of them stray strands.

{Message edited to correct spelling error}

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#143695 - 08/25/05 09:45 AM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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I hope whoever did this derated the cord for bundling too! [Linked Image]


#143696 - 08/26/05 11:03 PM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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I just read that the BS1363 standard makes for one of the safest designed plugs in the world, but I guess that does not mean "foolproof."

<shudders at the picture>


#143697 - 08/30/05 10:19 AM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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As far as I know it is a different plug, cause Germany uses 220 V, not 110.


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#143698 - 08/30/05 10:59 AM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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Actually BS1363 is 240V


#143699 - 08/30/05 05:12 PM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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And with EC harmonisation, 230V nominalfor both, not to mention the wide tolerance laptop PSUs often have.


#143700 - 08/30/05 07:37 PM Re: How not to plug in your UK laptop while in Germany  
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Actually, BS1363, Schuko, French plugs etc are all rated for 250V.

Power's nominally 230V thorughout Europe thesedays.

As for BS1363 .... I donno I wouldn't particuarly rate it as all that safe it's got a lot of problems and isn't a fundementally safe design.

A schuko socket is recessed and the plug/socket system is designed to prevent you from getting your fingers anywhere near the live pins on the way in (on the 10/16A plugs). This means that the socket itself can be designed to make contact with a larger surface area of the pins. This gives you good contact and no "hot spots".

BS1363 on the otherhand has no recessed sockets so, the pins have to be sheathed to prevent shocks. The socket also only really makes contact with the tips of the pins. If the socket's worn / loose you can end up with pretty seriously hot pins.

Also, when used with ring circuits, the BS1363 system isn't necessarily all that safe as pauluk and others have discussed on this forum many times before.

And, many BS1363 plugs have the fuse holders rivited to the live pin. This riviting isn't always perfect, particularly on some cheap imports, and can result in hot plugs.

And, the fuse holder itself is prone to loosening up on older plugs if the fuse has been changed several times. This too can result in very hot plugs.

Overall, I would argue that schuko (the proper earthed variety of sockets) is a fundementally far superior design and doesn't rely on added-on safety features like its British counterpart.


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