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Here are some really wild (and pretty familiar) pics I found at www.diesteckdose.net. The original poster claims that all work has been done by licensed electricians.

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He says the gas line has been there first.


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Looks extremely familiar. Splices are twisted and taped with cloth friction tape. About every old junction box in the average Viennese home looks like that.

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[Linked Image]

really horrible stuff. can't say more atm, still shocked [Linked Image]

don't the gas pipes need to be yellow?
only in the industrial area?

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This can't be real...

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No idea about the gas line. In our basement they painted it yellow, but in the apartment they didn't.
It's definitely extremely shoddy work. Only the last box represents how work has been done here for ages (apart from the blue and black wires in the background). It seems like the cover has been missing for quite ome time judging by the dust that has accumulated on the splices.
The first pic looks like a junction box that has been smashed.
Pic #2 looks like 1950ies work, it's still an old metal box with cardboard lining but the cables are plastic. The guy obviously tried to squeeze in the box below the pipework, no idea why he didn't go a few cm lower. The box has definitely been messed around with after it was installed, there are blue and black wires as well as grey and black.
The wires in pic # 3 look newer.
Pic #4: box is probably the same age as #1. All the wires having the same color and the way the splices are made looks really familiar to me. Until the 1970ies most splices were just twisted and taped, originally with cloth tape, later with plastic tape, at least when doing work on existing installations (in new construction strip connectors (choc blocks) caught a bit earlier, but not before the late 1960ies). Where I live now I've opened dozens of junction boxes that were stuffed with all-black cloth wires spliced like the ones shown in the pic. If they were twisted real good such a splice will last pretty long. The original 1914 splices didn't make any problems, only one in the bathroom did (complete rewire in 1962).

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Not pretty. [Linked Image]

What's the annotation on the first photo say? Something about the ground wire being improperly used?

It looks as though the cable coming downwards is also connected with reversed polarity.

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Paul, it says that the earth has been used as switch return.

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Thanks. I can't see anything else connected to that wire though. [Linked Image] Maybe the cable to a light it used to feed has been removed?

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Yeah, that's what he said. Don't know why he didn't bother removing all the other crap since he was so proud of his own work.


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