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Power Factor #129776
08/18/05 05:05 PM
08/18/05 05:05 PM
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Dnkldorf  Offline OP
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How does a Delta vs Wye change PF?

Any clues?


Dnk.....

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Re: Power Factor #129777
08/18/05 09:53 PM
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How does a Delta vs Wye change PF?
It doesn't. Load has a specific PF. Voltage has nothing to do with it. A motor generally has a lagging PF and a capacitor has a leading PF. Check Here for more info. http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/electricCircuits/AC/AC_11.html


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Re: Power Factor #129778
08/19/05 05:53 AM
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That's what I thought too.

I am doing PF testing and harmonics testing with a Fluke 434, and downloaded the new firmware to correct some bugs in it.

On a 480X240/120ct transformer I am monitoring, if you switch from delta to wye on the Fluke, the PF changes from .67 to .94.

I am curious why, they should be the same measurements unless somehow they get measured differently in the meter.

But that makes no sense..

Thanks.

Dnk.....

Re: Power Factor #129779
08/19/05 06:18 AM
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Or is it a Phase-Line PF, and then a Phase-Phase PF?

That would make sense, wouldn't it?


Dnk..

Re: Power Factor #129780
08/19/05 06:34 AM
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Only if the 'delta' connection tells the meter that the current sensors are in the phase to phase circuits, but the voltage connections are being made at the terminals.

Once you have the three conductors coming off the transformer, the power factor measurement should be the same.

-Jon

Re: Power Factor #129781
08/19/05 01:03 PM
08/19/05 01:03 PM
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A delta to wye transformer doesn't change the PF, but depending on how the meter makes the PF measurement, you may need to know that the delta to wye windings result in a 30 degree phase shift from primary to secondary.
Since PF is essentially measuring phase shift of voltage relative to current, that setting you describe on the meter may effect the reading.


Ron
Re: Power Factor #129782
08/19/05 02:41 PM
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It must be the phase-line reading, I measured another trans today and switched from delta-wye and the PF readings were about the same.

I will contact Fluke and let you know if your still interested.

Thanks for your help.

Dnk.....


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