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All in the Family #124667 11/28/06 06:24 PM
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From Lostazhell

My wife went out early this "black friday" (armed with my MasterCard, Nach! [Linked Image] ) and called me telling me to check my email, and I'd be so proud of her.... She sent me this pic of a fairly dilapidated Zinsco panel with all kinds of issues, from where she had breakfast with her mom.... I told her I hope she used her zoom and to stay at least 50' from it!

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Re: All in the Family #124668 11/28/06 06:41 PM
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Roger Offline
Randy, I can't believe they drove all the way to NC for Black Friday, I swear I've seen that very same panel here. [Linked Image]

BTW, You've trained her well. [Linked Image]


Re: All in the Family #124669 11/28/06 07:07 PM
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JJM Offline
Zinsco ain't ALL that terrible... at least phases can easily be switched on the back of the breakers. This is important because the acring that usually occurs on the busbars gets so bad you really need to use an adjoining phase.

Might be better off with the acring though... the arcing is probably more reliable to open the circuit breaker, than the mushy feeling OEM Zinsco breakers.

Why is it the AFTERMARKET Zinsco breakers seem to feel and work better than the OEM Zinsco breakers?


Re: All in the Family #124670 11/28/06 09:03 PM
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Ancient Chinese craftsmanship, grasshopper [Linked Image]

Re: All in the Family #124671 11/28/06 11:07 PM
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Re: All in the Family #124672 11/28/06 11:52 PM
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yaktx Offline
Wow, she has you pegged!!

My wife went to Japan on business and she made sure to get tons of pix of Matsumoto Castle, including closeups of the fine joinery that traditional Japanese carpenters are famous for. She said it was freezing there. I didn't ask her for any electrical pix (although she took a few on her next trip to Thailand).

I've never seen a Zinsco panel like that, with two rows of breakers.

Re: All in the Family #124673 11/29/06 12:24 AM
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mxslick Offline
I've never seen a Zinsco panel like that, with two rows of breakers.

Great, double the trouble in a single panel!!!

Gotta love all that wire bending space too!! [Linked Image]

Those thins are really crappy too, I've broken one open and was surprised that it could safely pass more than about 10 amps. (It was a twin 30amp.)


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Re: All in the Family #124674 11/29/06 07:10 AM
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SteveFehr Offline
I like the spider web between the feeder lugs. I wonder how the spider managed THAT feat?

Re: All in the Family #124675 11/29/06 09:51 AM
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mamills Offline
This old panel looks like it could have been set up as a split buss job. Remove the jumpers from the main lugs from the left side to right, install (or arc weld [Linked Image]) a large 2P breaker on the left side, and use it to feed the right side. How you would bend the conductors through those narrow gutters to the other side is another matter...

Doesn't make it any better, though... [Linked Image] . Those jumpers look awful dicey. I'm surprised the entire panel isn't full of mud daubers. Those little beasties can get in everywhere.

JJM: I know what you mean by those mushy feeling OEM breakers. I believe those were "Magnetrips", and if you operated the handle slowly enough, you could actually open the circuit (read "arcing contacts")before the "spring" kicks in [Linked Image].

Mike (mamills)

[This message has been edited by mamills (edited 11-29-2006).]

Re: All in the Family #124676 11/29/06 12:59 PM
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RSmike Offline
My spouse (bless her soul for putting up with me) now walks around and points out code violations to me. Well trained indeed.

I have yet to see any of these fire starter panels. Only Square D, CH, and the other popular brands. FP and the like must not be popular in the northern states....


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