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#123870 - 05/31/06 10:16 PM Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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I'll post these pics here and let Rollie add his own comments below:

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It's all yours Rollie. [Linked Image]


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#123871 - 05/31/06 10:35 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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The first pic is from a little town outside of Freudenstadt Germany of some odd OH services,it did not turn out as well as well as I had hoped,2nd one was shot from a moving vehicle (no I wasnt driving) on the way from Baden Weiler.

# 3 you can see for yourself.

# 4 If this was in the US it would be certified hack work, what I would like to know is it likewise in Germany where this was taken?


#123872 - 06/01/06 02:09 AM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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First and second pic: fairly typical old (I guess 1970 or earlier) OH services.
Third pic: modular device combination, except for the motion detector a standard item. You can see nicely how the different devices are fitted with a frame, with their own cover plates. The frame is held in place by the covers.

Last pic: looks quite acceptable. If it's outdoors the use of NYM cable is slightly questionable, but if it's out of direct sunlight I guess it's ok. Strain relief is not really an issue, besides the connector on the light should do the job. There is a drip loop too and NYM is rated for open installation on wood and drilling through wood.


#123873 - 06/02/06 11:36 AM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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First pic:
Am I wrong but are those primary lines directly OVER and SUPPORTED by the building???

3rd pic:
I am not sure what type of cable or what its rated for, but what worries me is the top of that Quartz fixture is so close to that wood....

A.D


#123874 - 06/02/06 01:57 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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Those lines go from house to house in some cases as many as 3 directions


#123875 - 06/02/06 02:44 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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Those lines are all 230/400V 4w 3 ph, and yes, the risers that both support the overhead wires and protect the service are supported by the roof framing.

Ok, yes, the light _is_ pretty close to the wood! While the electrical side seems to be ok, that _does_ qualify as a hack job!


#123876 - 06/03/06 07:03 AM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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Great photo's

That's common in rural German towns that the 230 / 400 volts short poles are supported from the house roofs

The through roads can be quite narrow sometimes so it keeps extra power poles away from the road.


The product of rotation, excitation and flux produces electricty.

#123877 - 06/04/06 05:25 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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More from NORCAL

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With copper prices the way they are how long do you think this copper downspout would survive the tweakers here? [Linked Image]



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Here is a pic of a Porsche diesel tractor that I saw while at a celebration of a new bridge over the Rhine between Germany and France on 05/14.



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How does it corner, Rollie?



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#123878 - 06/10/06 07:38 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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3 more pics:

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#123879 - 06/10/06 09:07 PM Re: Stuff from NORCAL's trip  
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The last two piccies are very familiar terrain for me.
These are the VMVK cables, Vynil, Mantel =(casing) Vynil Kabel = (cable).
These are made in three, four and five core, with the actual cores in a filler material which peels away easily. The outer grey casing is quite tough and can be used with no problems in temperatures below zero.

If the cables is saddled to the wall (brick) a 5 mm² hole with rawl plug was made, The bottom part of the cable clip attached, then cable in slot and top part attached by means of two plastic screws.

Porshe made good tractors other than fast cars,
Has a very similar look as the older Deutz tractors which also had an air cooled diesel engine.

I like the photo's Rollie


The product of rotation, excitation and flux produces electricty.

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