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House Fire (Isle of Man) #123070
02/28/06 01:40 PM
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pauluk  Offline OP
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Thanks to ianh for the following:

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These are a couple of photos from a house fire I attended this afternoon. It was fairly intense, and it wasn't possible to get an exact identification of the boards and CBs (but I can hazard a guess..)


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Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123071
02/28/06 05:34 PM
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any idea of the exact cause? looks nasty


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Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123072
02/28/06 05:56 PM
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Alan Belson  Offline
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It's not that pub, is it?!


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Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123073
03/01/06 05:09 AM
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ianh  Offline
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No, it's not that pub, but the next lot of photos might be.....

My opinion is that the fire started (or was at it's most intense) in the area where the cables came into the distribution board. This is the top right area in photo 2.

I'll know more at the end of the week as a fire investigator is coming over to the island to have a look at it.

Edited to add this bit :

If you look closely at the photos, can you spot an earth wire anywhere? This should be a TT installation....

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Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123074
03/01/06 07:26 AM
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pauluk  Offline OP
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I can't even see where the earth busbar out of the melted unit is!

Was that separate MCB/RCD unit on the left feeding anything? I can see only the feeders going to it.

Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123075
03/01/06 08:26 AM
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The RCD on the left is fed from the meter and then goes into the distribution board.

When the fire brigade attended, they hosed the lot down with water! I know that there are a lot of fire fighters on this board - would you use water???

Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123076
03/01/06 08:49 AM
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pauluk  Offline OP
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Ah... I was thinking that was the remains of an RCD on the right of the board itself.

Water? Probably not the best choice!

Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123077
03/01/06 12:41 PM
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If you look closely at the photos, can you spot an earth wire anywhere? This should be a TT installation....



Can't see one, they all look like earth wires after this though


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Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123078
03/01/06 05:16 PM
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screwi  Offline
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Sand, powder or CO2 for electrical fires aint it?? water sounds strange, although there is an opinion that once an electrical fire has started then there is presumed a dead short anyway and more water will trip the service fuse, but Im not sure Id take that course of action, maybe there are some firefighters on here that could answer the question about putting electrical fires like this one out.
Regards Dave.

Re: House Fire (Isle of Man) #123079
03/02/06 02:29 AM
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wa2ise  Offline
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Water on electrical fires? Isn't there an issue with shock hazard to the fireman hosing it down? Or are fire hoses designed to protect the fireman from that?

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