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Where's the Workmanship? #123055
02/26/06 09:58 PM
02/26/06 09:58 PM
electure  Offline
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,265
Fullerton, CA USA
Here is the first, of many, pics I took at a brand-new $1.5 Million tract home. This home, while having relatively few actual code violations, raised quite a few matters for discussion.
This pic was taken in the main room of the home. The wall has many differing devices- phone, cable, sound system, as well as ordinary receptacles. Please note how the level of the cover plates bounces up and down- it seems everyone used a different ruler!


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Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123056
02/26/06 10:07 PM
02/26/06 10:07 PM
Trumpy  Online Happy

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,236
SI,New Zealand
Wow John,
That's slack!. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123057
02/27/06 12:22 AM
02/27/06 12:22 AM
Radar  Offline
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 349
Los Angeles, CA
Reno - What the heck is the 'main' room of a $1.5 million house? Is that sort of what we'd think of as a family room?


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Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123058
02/27/06 01:46 AM
02/27/06 01:46 AM
Tesla  Offline
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,273
Sacramento, CA
That looks terrible....

I could never let that pass.

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Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123059
02/27/06 02:12 AM
02/27/06 02:12 AM
SolarPowered  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 625
Palo Alto, CA, USA
What is the purpose of the single (as opposed to duplex) receptacle, second from the right? Is it 240V? It seems to me that it should have been ganged with the duplex to its right. And all that comm cabling probably could have gone into a signle double-wide, as well.

Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123060
02/27/06 11:13 AM
02/27/06 11:13 AM
renosteinke  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
The single receptacle is a dedicated circuit for the entertainment center.

You'ld think the electrician would have put those two at the same level!

Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123061
02/28/06 06:00 AM
02/28/06 06:00 AM
RODALCO  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 856
Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
Rough work,
how much effort to do it right. [Linked Image]

I wouldn't accept that as home owner.

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Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123062
02/28/06 07:11 AM
02/28/06 07:11 AM
pauluk  Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
The single receptacle is a dedicated circuit for the entertainment center.

Looks like a 20A to me. What on earth are they going to be running that couldn't have gone on a 15A circuit?

Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123063
02/28/06 07:27 AM
02/28/06 07:27 AM
walrus  Offline
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 680
Bangor Me. USA
If the single is for an entertainment center, isn't that whole wall going to be covered up anyway??

Re: Where's the Workmanship? #123064
02/28/06 08:39 AM
02/28/06 08:39 AM
mahlere  Offline
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 507
New Jersey

the key word here is "tract" home. Anyone in this industry for more than 3 days should be familiar with tract homes. I don't care what the selling price is, the developer (and/or his investors) is the one footing the bill for the buildout.

How many EC's do you know, who do tract homes, who pay the top wages in the area? Who hire only the most competent mechanics?

I'm not knocking those guys, but they've created their own cut throat industry by chopping their own prices to nothing to get work.

So why are we surprised that all corners are cut?

Anyone with 1/2 a brain would be a fool to buy a tract home for that much money.

Just my opinion.

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