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Rainproof Cover? #119594
01/08/05 12:26 AM
01/08/05 12:26 AM
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troubleshooting a tripping breaker, I found this on the deck of a beachfront house.... Yeah, we've had some seriously heavy rain!

- Randy (aka Lostazhell)
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Re: Rainproof Cover? #119595
01/08/05 01:12 AM
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Ahhh, GFI Flambe!! [Linked Image]

From the looks of that second pic, luckily that surrounding wood was wet from all the rain or this could've been a post-house fire repair call!

Was either cover open when it got soaked, or was the water up that high?

Edited for my dyslexic spelling..

[This message has been edited by mxslick (edited 01-08-2005).]


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Re: Rainproof Cover? #119596
01/08/05 07:46 AM
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Man, there's been some serious cooking going on in there.
Looks more like bad sealing technique than anything else.
Or bad gaskets. [Linked Image]

Re: Rainproof Cover? #119597
01/09/05 07:01 AM
01/09/05 07:01 AM
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I'll lay bets there were X-mas light pluged in there and left on during all the rain. They removed the evidence by the time you got there Randy. (Top outlet on the right had a cord in it when this happened, you can see where the smoke went around the ground pin, and the slots are scraped free of smoke when they removed it.)

And it's impossable to tell if the thing on the left was a GFI? From the face... you can see it was by the pic with the cover off.

[This message has been edited by e57 (edited 01-09-2005).]


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Re: Rainproof Cover? #119598
01/09/05 11:05 AM
01/09/05 11:05 AM
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I'd bet that the one on the left was... look closely at the center and the squared - off "burn holes" in the center, as well as the sillhouette of the outlet body, with the recessed screw holders...

Re: Rainproof Cover? #119599
01/09/05 11:23 AM
01/09/05 11:23 AM
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Holden, MA USA
Why do we assume this had anything to do with rain? There are a few other things that could have caused this.

Re: Rainproof Cover? #119600
01/09/05 04:39 PM
01/09/05 04:39 PM
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Electricmanscott:

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There are a few other things that could have caused this.


Such as? The failure looks too violent to have been from a simple overload.... just my 2 cents.. [Linked Image]


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Re: Rainproof Cover? #119601
01/09/05 06:44 PM
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Wharton, Texas, USA
Randy: How much damage to the wiring inside the box?

Mike (mamills)

Re: Rainproof Cover? #119602
01/11/05 05:18 PM
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I am not saying water wasn't the culprit just that I don't automatically assume it to be because it is outdoors. A loose connection on a heavily loaded circuit coils certainly have done it.

Re: Rainproof Cover? #119603
08/10/05 12:54 AM
08/10/05 12:54 AM
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The receptacle on the left is a Leviton GFCI.

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