ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
ShoutChat
Recent Posts
Where is Everyone?
by gfretwell - 06/20/21 10:53 PM
Happy Father's Day!
by Bill Addiss - 06/19/21 04:16 PM
A Risky Setup
by timmp - 06/18/21 08:08 PM
Conduit over Vinyl Siding
by Jim M - 06/16/21 08:30 PM
Updated Forum Software
by Admin - 06/15/21 10:23 AM
New in the Gallery:
2020 - 2021 Winter Project
2020 - 2021 Winter Project
by Bill Addiss, April 29
Garden 2021
Garden 2021
by Bill Addiss, April 26
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 15 guests, and 17 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,661
Likes: 1
Admin Offline OP
Administrator
Member
Quote
Was doing some general repairs at a school and walked by and seen this. Had to stop and do a double take This took guts.

Cheman6
[Linked Image]

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9
C
Junior Member
so what does everybody think?

this was not photoshopped. this is the way I found it I have two other views if you would like tosee them.

[Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by cheman6 (edited 12-13-2004).]

NIce huh this is the type of stuff I get to run into everyday.

[This message has been edited by cheman6 (edited 12-16-2004).]

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 265
D
Member
Is that really 120V in that conduit? If it is, someone should be shot.

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
P
Member
Yikes! It took a second for that to register in my mind as well. Surely it can't be? It is! [Linked Image]

I can't help wondering what this looks like on the inside of the building.

Any idea what those wires connect to?

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 119
S
Member
As a person that spends most of his work days in public buildings... I hate to say it but I see creative wiring methods too frequently. [Linked Image]

I would suspect that a building maintenance person trying to save the school district a few bucks decided that he would "plumb" the water fixture instead of calling in a real plumber. And... obviously, once that worked... coversation probably went somethin like this: Administrator: "We need to run some wiring outside for this temporarily installed permanent equipment." Maintenance Man: "I know how we can save some money, let's use the same "hole in the wall" I used for the water line!" [Linked Image]

School districts as a whole are notorious for penny pinching and making more with less. Usually, maintenance people are overworked, underpaid, and have just enough knowledge to keep things running. This isn't the place to talk about school funding issues... but, it is in a sad state.

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 119
S
Member
P.S. I almost forgot, I would likely consider this to pose an "Imminent Danger." We certainly cannot predict when a wiring fault may occur and energize everything in the building. [Linked Image]

OSHA definition of "imminent danger": "Any conditions or practices in a place of employment which are such that a danger exists that could reasonably be expected to cause death or serious physical harm, either immediately or before the danger can be eliminated through the procedures set forth in 1908.6(f)(1)."

This means death or serious physical harm may occur before an inspector could arrive and require the elimination of the hazard.

I hope the school agreed to pay whatever it costs to fix this mess. You should get a public service award for identifying and repairing the problem. [Linked Image]

BTW... Welcome to the forum Cheman6!

Edited to add imminent danger definition.



[This message has been edited by safetygem (edited 12-13-2004).]

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 67
P
Member
so that's how you make water "HOT"! [Linked Image]

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 680
W
Member
This has to be Photoshopped. I've seen some"creative" stuff but this is unreal [Linked Image]

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Phunny Photoshop is my vote.

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 790
W
Member
If that's a copper water pipe in there, wouldn't it double as a grounding conductor?
[Linked Image]

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
Featured:

Tools for Electricians
Tools for Electricians
 

* * * * * * *

2020 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2020 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
The Watt Doctor
The Watt Doctor
Mont Belvieu, TX
Posts: 437
Joined: December 2001
Top Posters(30 Days)
Trumpy 10
Admin 10
Popular Topics(Views)
280,448 Are you busy
213,527 Re: Forum
200,406 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5