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County Fair Temporary Lighting #118995
11/16/04 12:35 AM
11/16/04 12:35 AM
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(submitted via Joe Tedesco)
I ran across this outdoor lighting installation last month at the LA County Fair. It appears to be permanent and not subject to removal at the end of the fair's season. No part of it was water resistant and it is installed not only outdoors, but in a completely open area with no overhang or cover. I'd think that more care would be used in a public area cared for by a government agency.

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Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #118996
11/16/04 01:09 AM
11/16/04 01:09 AM
electure  Offline

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,280
Fullerton, CA USA
I never cease to be amazed. This kind of thing is allowed to remain in so many city or county properties, sometimes in the most stringently enforced jurisdictions.
If you tried this in front of a private store on a public street, they'd be all over you.

Do as they say, not as they do. [Linked Image]

(I'm sure Joe hasn't forgotten his "tour" of the LA Convention Center a couple of years ago, and all the "permanently temporary" wiring that abounded.)

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #118997
11/16/04 10:08 AM
11/16/04 10:08 AM
pauluk  Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
This sort of wiring for outdoor lights seems to suffer poor installation with incorrect equipment the world over. The lights are just goin up ready for the holiday season in my nearest small town. I'll be keeping an eye out to see what the wiring is like this year!

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #118998
11/16/04 03:58 PM
11/16/04 03:58 PM
NJ Wireman  Offline
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 186
New Jersey (South Jersey)
i'd have to agree with electure it seems they always come down on our guys for these types of items but the heck with when they do it this is one item that drives me crazy town counites states get away with murder but we get hung for a hang nail!

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #118999
11/16/04 05:30 PM
11/16/04 05:30 PM
mxslick  Offline
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 803
Atomic City, ID USA
But doesn't everybody know that it never rains in Southern California? [Linked Image]

I love the use of the zip cord on the (appears to be) bare aircraft cable messenger wire.

And wanna bet the fixtures all have the open ends of the sockets facing up? EDIT: Oops, my bad. A closer look shows the sockets the other way. So now the treminals would benefit from the water dripping on them.)

And after some of the battles I've had with LA County inspectors...

[This message has been edited by mxslick (edited 11-16-2004).]

Stupid should be painful.
Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #119000
11/16/04 05:46 PM
11/16/04 05:46 PM
cpalm1  Offline
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 66
its pretty ugly too, i hope it burns down. [Linked Image]

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #119001
11/16/04 06:39 PM
11/16/04 06:39 PM
SvenNYC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,691
New York City
Am I the only one who absolutely despises those little snap-on plugs?

I've had one too many pull apart on me when pulling them out of the socket. [Linked Image]

Give me a real plug with terminal screws any day.

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #119002
11/17/04 01:03 PM
11/17/04 01:03 PM
SolarPowered  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 625
Palo Alto, CA, USA
I agree with mxslick -- I don't see the problem; it's hanging in a dry area. (To wit, LA County.)

(OK, now e57 is going to tell me that it actually does rain in Los Angles. [Linked Image] )

Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #119003
11/17/04 09:01 PM
11/17/04 09:01 PM
Sir Arcsalot  Offline
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 127
Lynden, Washington
I, too, despise the severe "double standard" that public agencies engage in [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]. It is hypocrisy plain and simple (and I work in the public sector)!!!

To say it is unfair is a gross understatement in my opinion.

No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.
Re: County Fair Temporary Lighting #119004
11/23/04 04:14 PM
11/23/04 04:14 PM
uksparky  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 200
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