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#117918 07/18/04 09:49 PM
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This is an outlet installed in the side of a bathroom sink cabinet... I was always told this was not allowed...

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#117919 07/18/04 10:46 PM
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210.52 Dwelling Unit Receptacle Outlets.
(D) Bathrooms.
In dwelling units, at least one wall receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900 mm (3 ft) of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop.
I'd take the fixed cabinet side wall as a partition.


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#117920 07/19/04 01:25 AM
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Curious thing here.... I was written up under 110.11 once for doing this..

Another curious thing,
I'm reading in the 2002 NEC Handbook in the commentary below 210.52(D),(bottom of page 91) It states:
"See 410.57(D), which prohibits installation of a receptacle inside bathtub & shower spaces."

Where the devil is 410.57???? [Linked Image]
This codebook goes from 410.54 & jumps to 410.64! I'd think it would be referring to 410.4(D), but nothing regarding receptacles is mentioned here! Anyone have any ideas?

-Randy

BTW, this outlet pictured was added by an electrician for the original builder as a "side job" after the fact. It's within 3' of the bathtub/shower also.. But my original understanding was this outlet was not allowed to be "below" the counter where if the sink overflowed, it could become wet.

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if this is in 'addition to' code requirements, and outside 3', what is any different than an appliance garage rec. ??

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#117922 07/19/04 06:44 AM
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If this receptacle is installed to conform to the requirements of 210.52 (D) the language would compel the location to be in a wall or partition. If the base cabinet is the only structural location within the 36" the AHJ could evoke 90.4.

#117923 07/19/04 07:07 AM
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Randy:

410 Part L deleted and now Article 406

See 406.8 Receptacles in Damp or Wet Locations.


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#117924 07/19/04 08:50 PM
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I install many #'s inside the bath cabinet,or drawer.For hair dryers,curling irons,ect... If that plug was reversed,Would that be code?

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#117925 07/20/04 12:06 AM
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There is another outlet above the sink, out of the picture on the wall to the left....


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