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#117655 06/28/04 04:55 AM
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One of the service guys found this on a service call.

Details to follow when I get back from NY.

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[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 06-28-2004).]


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iwire — A fantastic Monday-morning shot.

"Lest we forget."

#117657 06/28/04 11:28 AM
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Dang that must've been a deafening bang when that happened! [Linked Image] Was someone torquing one of the neutral lugs & slipped into the phase busbars?

-Randy

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I found a simular damage with a water drip between A and B phase in a 100 amp service before. I wonder if this is outdoors.

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Lostazhell - I thought the same thing. Someone is seeing spots now, maybe?

No, I take that back! In pic 1, note the clean spots where the cover of this section would go. They're clean! The cover was on when it happened!

I don't think it happened over time though, due to the sprayed metal.

A mystery......... Oooooo!


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Mark,
I see what you're talking about, but the cover would be mounted to the 2 top metal "flanges?" either side of the neutral bus.. & those aren't clean like the locations I think you're referring to... If I remember right, & if I'm looking at this right, this is a GE 3phase (400A?)panel.. Isn't the deadfront attached to the panel cover??

What was bolted up there?? [Linked Image] Looking at this again is making me think something along the lines of a forklift skid.. The blown out section looks about the same size to me...
Tim, I've some across water damaged panels before also, but this is one hella blowout!

-Randy

PS Bob, don't forget to reidentify the white on the top breakers (Ckts 1,3,5 & 2,4,6) [Linked Image]

#117661 06/29/04 06:09 PM
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In my opinion, this could have been a lightning strike onto the phase, breaking through to the (grounded somewhere?) neutral...

With how many Amperes were the Breaker bus bars fed?

Cant wait to hear more.

Really great pics.

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randy .. take a look at the breaker again that is not a GE at all it is westinghouse breakers just let you know because i ran into this before and yes it is 400 amp bus bar size but possiblty 600 because i cant tell what size larger conductors come in bottom of box unless the whole thing is inverted.

merci , marc

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Those are GE TEB or TED breakers.

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opps sorry i stand corrected it was my mistake i did grab the ge catalog book sure you are correct my blunder here sorry about that

merci , marc


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