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This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/12/06 10:08 PM
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/12/06 10:09 PM
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/12/06 10:19 PM
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Well, at least he doesn't have to derate his wire for bundling...
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/12/06 11:59 PM
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At least they used wire nuts on all those flying splices ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/biggrin.gif) (** runs and ducks as screwdrivers and other pointy objects get thrown in my general direction***). Ya I will say that has got to be the worst I have seen in a long time.. What a shame too all that expen$ive NM tied in a bow and connected to the panel. Guess the panel cover is going to act as one big cable clamp when its put on ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/biggrin.gif) I noticed from the 6'th and last pic, where those tandem 20A breakers are, Looks like to me BOTH red and black conductors of each 3-wire cable go to the same tandem breaker? I can see a neutral conductor getting a tad hot! A.D
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 12:09 AM
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ignoring all the very worse stuff, at least he used tandem breakers, 'cause you know, he doesn't have enough open space already ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif) man there's just too much crud here to even comment on... -Will
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 01:55 AM
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I don't like tandem breakers. That whole thing is quite horrid. My church's main building (newest one-circa 1975) has a square D panel, and almost half of it is done this way (tandems).
You guys may want to see some pics of this place though...it might amuse you what you can find in a 1975 office/meeting complex. In addition to the tandems, it has major grounding issues (as the surge suppressors always seem to be burnt up...literally). And don't get me started on the other issues (such as backstabbed wiring and copier on a lighting circuit)...and this is only the one building. ;-)
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 02:16 AM
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THINK THIS PROJECT WAS 'FINISHED' BEFORE YOU WERE CALLED......
QUESTION, THIS WAS AN UPGRADE...CORRECT.
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 03:37 AM
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If there was a 'top ten' list... this gem should be on it!
Luke Clarke Electrical Planner for TVA.
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 10:30 AM
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Wiring's easy. Anybody can do it. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/wink.gif) At least the demo will be easy. No staples to pull out. [This message has been edited by CTwireman (edited 12-13-2006).]
Peter
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Re: This Has to be the Worst ! ...
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12/13/06 11:12 AM
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This is a great series of photos! Quote him some astronomical price and see if he takes the bait - you should be able to get this all fixed up lickkety-split the wires are all ID'ed.
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