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#110086 - 01/21/06 01:58 PM Secret Upgrade  
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Fullerton, CA USA
We are doing service changes and re-locations in a neigbouring town for the PoCo as they are taking out the backyard overhead and moving it to the front where they can get at it...
In this particular house the homeowner said it was a " 200A service".. yet the PoCo said they have him down for "60A"... This is what we found in the basement!!!

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#110087 - 01/21/06 02:23 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Posts: 155
Waukesha, WI, USA
I guess he made up the extra space for the small service entrance cable in the main breaker lugs by adding a wire and looping it back into the same lug. Cute I must say. And using white is precious.
And that EGC attached to the lug bolted to the back of the box. Interesting.
And the connection with that clamp type connector with the red and white insulated wire to the bare copper.

#110088 - 01/21/06 03:07 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Posts: 361
Nice crosby for "bonding".

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#110089 - 01/21/06 06:59 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Posts: 199
Lehigh Acres, FL
In #2, are those main wires TAPED together where they appear to take a real sharp bend?


#110090 - 01/21/06 10:36 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
Larry Fine  Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 693
Richmond, VA
Upon blowing up that image, it almost looks like they're split-bolted!

Larry Fine
Fine Electric Co.

#110091 - 01/21/06 10:38 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
Larry Fine  Offline
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Posts: 693
Richmond, VA
Also, the "red" wire mentioned by Dave is actually white inside the panel. Heat damage???

Larry Fine
Fine Electric Co.

#110092 - 01/22/06 05:15 AM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
Not to forget the "fireproof" enclosure.

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#110093 - 01/22/06 01:08 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Posts: 558
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Yes, this one was one of a kind.. those black wires are joined under the tape with those same little clamp things!!
As for " heat damage".. I am not sure I did not get a good look at it but it would not surprise me.. there were a pile of 1 pole loads that could have been out of balance but there were 2 stoves, a dryer, garage sub and also a now disconnected electric water heater.. so chances are that service was WAY overloaded at one time.

The kicker is, if the homeowner would have done it correct and not "temporary" as he called it, the PoCo would have paid to have the service re-located to the front and supplied @200A.. The PoCo in this case PAID for the re-location BUT only an upgrade to 100A, if he wanted to go to 200A it would have cost him extra..

#110094 - 01/22/06 06:58 PM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Wi/ Paris France { France for ...
hey you guys i dont know if you catch this one or not but look at the main breaker connetion did you notice the white wire looped and " tripled " lug in the main breaker lug landing connection that is sure fire for code volitations there.

the other thing is that breaker box located on the oppitside wall look like each induvual conductors ran to main breaker so i am supecting it was on other location before they make it perment there

Merci, Marc

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#110095 - 01/23/06 10:16 AM Re: Secret Upgrade  
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Posts: 167
Irvine, CA, USA
The drop coming through the wall has four conductors, it appears. Are all of them connected (or were) at the POCO end??

It looks like the POCO is supplying an equip. grd; which would be unusual!!

Larry LeVoir
City of Irvine, CA

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