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#109781 12/04/05 09:13 AM
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Here are some pictures, one of many instances of poor wiring methods I ran across the other day. The worst part about it is that this house passed inspection. Not one violation was found.

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What is the violation?

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334.30 Securing and Supporting.
Nonmetallic-sheathed cable shall be secured by staples, cable ties, straps, hangers, or similar fittings designed and installed so as not to damage the cable at intervals not exceeding 1.4 m (41/2 ft) and within 300 mm (12 in.) of every cabinet, box, or fitting. Flat cables shall not be stapled on edge.

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Main Entry: 1strap
Pronunciation: 'strap
Function: noun
Etymology: alteration of strop, from Middle English, band or loop of leather or rope, from Old English, thong for securing an oar, from Latin struppus band, strap, from Greek strophos twisted band, from strephein to twist

1 a : a narrow usually flat strip or thong of a flexible material and especially leather used for securing, holding together, or wrapping b : something made of a strap forming a loop <a boot strap> c : a strip of leather used for flogging d : STROP

NM looks like a strap to me.

Not saying I would do this, just saying I do not see it as the end of the world or a violation.

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In the last pic is that multiple cables into 3/4" romex connectors?
Bob, i wouldnt use that type of "strap" either but is that a bundling issue?
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in pic #3

how bout the violation of multiple romexes going into one connector (looks like 7 0r 8 into 1 1 1/4 inch connector as im sure the connector is not listed for this use

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As Bob has mentioned, it is not pretty, but does seem to comply. When we see a method that may be unorthodoxed, that does not mean it is incorrect. The only issue is this method does seem to lead itself to the chance of bundling.

I also wonder about the use of the 1 1/4 fitting for all of the cables.


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When I did new construction res 6 years ago we strapped with the remains of romex scrap (not my choice), inspector always passed it.

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Is this California? Sure looks like it to me. That is very common, and I don't see the violation either.

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Might have a problem with bundling and de-rating.


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334.30 Securing & Supporting NM shall be...straps..., or similar fittings DESIGNED and installed...
I do not believe NM cable is designed to support and especially secure NM cable.
Also the multiple cables in one clamp may exceed the mfg. listing for that clamp.
Junk looking work.
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I have no problem with this method of support. Code Nazi's could argue the legality of it but to me it's fine although cheesy.

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