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#109528 10/31/05 12:10 AM
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Picture submitted by royal12136:

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What code does this violate?

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#109529 10/31/05 04:32 PM
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First off, I'd cite 210-52(c)(5), as this is not located in a readily accessable spot.

Also 210-8(a)(6), GFI protection for kitchens.

Can 110-12 apply here as well?

(All above from '99 NEC)


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#109530 10/31/05 05:23 PM
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One question Tim,
Has that Duplex been sawn off to fit above the bench?.
It's just that the splash-back looks awfully close to the wall.

#109531 10/31/05 06:27 PM
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Looks to me like the backsplash is a recent addition.

The duplex might have been there for a long time, and if it was installed previous to the requirement for GFCI protection, it is not a violation, although a suggestioncould be made to add the protection. It also could be a downstream device from a GFI receptacle or C/B.

Looks like it's time to take a chain saw to the backsplash, and let the countertop guy fix the results [Linked Image]

#109532 10/31/05 07:03 PM
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As far as I can tell, the receptacle has been cut off at the top of the backsplash. The countertop was installed in the 70's and there is no gfi's in the house. As it is I have found only one circuit with a ground.
I plan on trying to remove the receptacle this coming weekend when I have more time.
Thanks for the responses.
Tim

#109533 10/31/05 07:55 PM
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Thank the Lord for that,
So my eyesight isn't as poor as first thought!.
Mind you, that's not a "field-modification" I'd like to see catch on.
It's anyones guess what's behind that splash-back then!. [Linked Image]

#109534 11/01/05 05:47 PM
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Other than gfi protection, if that counter is not secured no violation. [Linked Image]

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#109535 11/01/05 07:50 PM
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if that counter is not secured

The plumbing pipes connected to the sink probably makes that counter not movable, so in a sense it's secured. Presumidly that box could be rotated and mounted sideways to allow full access to both outlets per code.

#109536 11/01/05 08:23 PM
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What is the requirement for full access to both outlets?

#109537 11/02/05 08:09 AM
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How about the requirement for the box itself to be accessible?

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