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Poor Fan Installation #109519
10/30/05 02:49 PM
10/30/05 02:49 PM
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I thought you might be interested in these photos for your website. I took them last Saturday with the homeowners camera while tracing out an open circuit. I found the problem in a 1900 box in the attic. Of coarse that was the last place I looked! The home owners brother cut into a wire in the attic to pick up a feed for the paddle fan that he installed in the next room. The paddle fan was installed 3 years ago. Look how nicely he installed the receiver!

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Re: Poor Fan Installation #109520
10/30/05 04:17 PM
10/30/05 04:17 PM
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SI,New Zealand
Hi there Greg,
There are some people that should never be allowed near wiring, I think this guy may be one of them.
The connections in that box in the first pic look rather dodgy. [Linked Image]
Does this fan unit have some sort of a wireless remote on it?.

Re: Poor Fan Installation #109521
10/30/05 08:52 PM
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Tesla  Offline
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Sacramento, CA
Cancel his fire insurance!


Tesla
Re: Poor Fan Installation #109522
10/31/05 01:08 AM
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Hemingray  Offline
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Lehigh Acres, FL
.....ok, I have no comments here. even my amateur level wiring skills are better than this. least all my splices are in boxes and use wire nuts.


Cliff
Re: Poor Fan Installation #109523
10/31/05 04:57 PM
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Tiger  Offline
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Joined: May 2005
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Crystal Lake, IL USA
Creative, but very dangerous. It is hard to get those receivers to fit where they belong.

Dave

Re: Poor Fan Installation #109524
11/02/05 04:29 PM
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Larry Fine  Offline
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Richmond, VA
I once had to R&R a ceiling fan on an extremely-sloped ceiling. The angle of the ball on the rod prevented the remote receiver from fitting in the mounting bracket.

My solution was to place the receiver in the 3-gang box that the fan was fed from, behind the switches, using the 14-3 to connect the receiver wires to the fan wires.

Believe me, I had to re-dress that 3-gang box very carefully, like I normally do on new work. By the way, my brother and his wife were very happy with the results.


Larry Fine
Fine Electric Co.
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Re: Poor Fan Installation #109525
11/06/05 07:39 PM
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HLCbuild  Offline
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Herndon,Va USA
Hey Larry,

How many cubic inches does a remote control receiver count as? With 14-3 is it 2.0?

Harold

Re: Poor Fan Installation #109526
11/06/05 09:39 PM
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Independence, MO USA
Commenting on the first pic: Looks like a guy who's "really good at hooking up speaker wire" (notice the very small seperation in each NM). Also, "The neutral carries no current; no need for a wire nut!" And finally; cable not secured within 8 in of the box.

Extra points for using cable clamps and a box of sufficient size?? [Linked Image]

Re: Poor Fan Installation #109527
11/07/05 02:57 AM
11/07/05 02:57 AM
Alan Belson  Offline
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Mayenne N. France
Why has he fitted a boat propeller up there? Is he expecting flooding? Where's the rudder? The whole set-up is a joke, surely!

Alan


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