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Abandoned Wiring #108910 09/14/01 12:57 AM
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A while back, Joe Tedesco quoted a Los Angeles City Code section which states that abandoned wiring should be removed. This is a good example of why. This 600A 480/277 section was smacked hard by a forklift about 30 years ago. Although the branch wiring was removed and rerouted to other sources, the feeder was never removed, and remained connected to the disconnect in the 2000A service.
In the meantime, someone had closed the disconnect, and this thing was hot when I got there to do some other work. Nobody knew how long it had been on, but the entire interior was just dangling from the top insulators, and a good quake would have gotten something together, with possible disastrous results....Scott (Electure)

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Re: Abandoned Wiring #108911 09/14/01 07:29 AM
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well if it's live, it's not really abandonded. the bad thing here is the impression that it IS abandonded.

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Being neglected for thirty years sure borders awfully close to abandonment.

Re: Abandoned Wiring #108913 09/16/01 12:05 PM
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Can you get your customer to pay for it????


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Re: Abandoned Wiring #108914 09/16/01 06:15 PM
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I pulled the feeder out of the EXO while on their clock. Their Millwright is under some heat, as he's the cause of lots of their problems. I think they'll make him remove it.

Re: Abandoned Wiring #108915 12/31/03 02:44 AM
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What is the current status of this problem?


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Re: Abandoned Wiring #108916 12/31/03 10:40 AM
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Joe,
It's been removed entirely.
The customer actually is a very good one.
Very concerned about a safe workplace, and just didn't know that this was in their back 40.
The "millwrong" still works there, but is under a heck of a lot more scrutiny...S

Re: Abandoned Wiring #108917 12/31/03 03:56 PM
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Nobody knew how long it had been on, but the entire interior was just dangling from the top insulators
That ain't good!. [Linked Image]
It would make you wonder why the feeder wasn't disconnected at the same time as the other circuits were re-routed.
Even so, the upstream protection should have been locked out/pulled.

Re: Abandoned Wiring #108918 01/01/04 10:30 AM
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Re: Abandoned Wiring #108919 01/01/04 11:06 AM
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i can see this issue becoming definitional, re; abandoned vs. neglected...

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