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#106640 07/28/04 09:04 PM
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Then you have not seen the factory built modular home type that is not a trailer.

See Prefab tour , for the specifics of the no trailer type m,odulat home. Nothe the move the modules around on a specially built flatbed.

Edit: I realize the photo above may be form a "trailer" type modular home.

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#106641 07/28/04 10:03 PM
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I have the narrow view if it came on site on wheels its a "trailer" . [Linked Image]

The comment is not meant in a nasty way,they have their place in giving people affordable housing,I just do not like working on them,but life is full of things that one does not want to do.

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#106642 07/28/04 10:57 PM
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[EDITED] Snipped for insensitivity [/EDITED]

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#106643 07/30/04 02:19 PM
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on a more serious note,
would a crawl space fit the "readily accessable" requirement if all those connections between the two halves were correctly boxed ????

#106644 08/25/04 08:05 PM
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I live in one of these things. I looked in the crawlspace while the cable guy was fixing our cable. The Main service wire is on the ground, pieces of 1973 romex on the ground, we found a soaked piece of No. 10 Dryer NM cable behind the busted tub line, an Air Conditioner feeder on the ground, a cloth insulated heat tape wire, PVC electrical boxes so small you can't even fit an outlet's pigtail wire in, one 15amp lighting circuit feeding most of the house, and my favorite, a piece of 14 gauge extension cord feeding my light. The thing is, the ext. cord is unprotected, inside an fininshed room. Outside the wall, and in a furnace room!! More interesting features, a plug used to plug the service cord into the meter, along with a 20 amp duplex receptacle, old as heck, non GFCI protected, not even any covers for the unused outlets! There is one spare service outlet, uncovered, ready for the neighbors' grandkids' fingers. (OUCH!!) Luckily the newer trailers are wired in the frame, correctly, safely, like regular houses, mostly, even though they still use the old obsolete "plug-in" meters. Only two of these electrical hazards have been replaced with non-hazards. We live in an "Pay-a-lot, don't-get-a-lot" trailer park. We do have some stuff like the picture.


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#106645 09/26/04 10:18 PM
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Sorry for the second post but... A receptacle within 6 feet of a water source, (a.k.a water heater,) at least install a GFCI!! Also, I do believe seeing somewhere that all crawlspace, basement, underground and water prone areas require GFCIs...


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#106646 09/28/04 10:26 PM
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I was just gonna mention about the recept being so close to a water source. Scarey. Who did this work, uncle Billy-Joe?


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#106647 09/30/04 07:07 AM
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I've got to agree with NORCAL. A trailer is a trailer. See how well the "modular homes" did in the recent hurricanes.

kid,
There's no requirement around a water heater for GFCI protection. It's not a water source until it leaks. A 50 Amp receptacle and cord are a common and Code compliant way of connecting "trailer houses".

I lived in one that had aluminum Romex as the wiring method, and I never did really sleep well knowing that it was there...S

#106648 09/30/04 08:26 PM
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As much as I bad mouth "trailers"they do have their place as more reasonably priced homes.

#106649 09/30/04 11:13 PM
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Near me is an area that was listed by Guiness as the "worlds' largest trailer park."
Most trailer fires seem to either be somehow associated with either the waster heater, or back rent.
We also have major areas of "manufacturered housing." Ultimately, if you break the house into small enough components, we all live in a house that was "brought in on a trailer." The major difference between a 'trailer' and a 'manufacturered home' is that a trailer can be moved; the other, once assembled, is there to stay. Would you call those high-rise buildings made of pre-fab parts "trailers?"

Another issue is whether or not a "mobile home" is "real estate." Unless certain steps are taken (setting it on a footing, etc.), the trailer is not subject to permits, inspections, etc., as is a "normal" home.

Whatever the faults are in the installation of 'trailers,' let's not forget the barely adequate practices often found in today's stick-built 'McMansions." Add to that the presence of box stores, and the willingness of the homeowner to attempt anything, and we have a lot of people setting themselves up for a fall. At least the pictured installation appeared to have been left alone since the dat it was installed.

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