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#106223 05/23/05 01:13 PM
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I think that Dave55 & Renosteinke comments regarding workman-like & workmanship are appropriate. I object to nesparky's comment "Joe Handyman".

Having a license (journeyman status) does not guarantee good work. I am a handyman, not a licensed electrician, but I would not do work this poor. I have cleaned up a lot of messes left by persons who were supposed to be professional licensed journeymen: conduit not deburred, no box covers, tape splices (tape dries out, falls off), multiple voltages in same conduit, undersized wiring, no ground, loose bond screws, etc.

And no, I don't try do everything: I refer work regularly to a licensed plumber and a licensed electrician. I also pay the electrician to inspect my work, just to be safe. Most of my work is for charities & lower income persons who cannot afford to hire electricians for the grunt work.

Remember, schooling and licensing do not guarantee competency & professionalism -- personal ethics do.


By the way, a good plumber would be as unimpressed as you guys are.

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#106224 05/23/05 08:18 PM
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Although important, personal ethics alone do not guarantee any degree of professionalism or competency.
A combination of that with knowledge is necessary, whether it be school or otherwise.
A license guarantees some accountability.

Most handymen don't (in fact can't) pull permits for any of their work. The electrician that may inspect the work actually should have a REAL inspector inspect his inspection! You wouldn't feel good about having a nurse look at the operation that the intern just did on you without even consulting the surgeon.

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 05-23-2005).]

#106225 05/23/05 09:31 PM
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Bruce, I am sure that nobody meant to insult you, or your choice of trade....but I must say there sure are a fair number of self-appointed jacks-of-all-trades that give the trained, competent folks a bad name.

Our local code limits the electric work a plumber, HVAC guy, handyman, maintenance man, etc to 10 ft. The pic shows a good deal more than that! There are other clues- such as the lack of a disconnect- that suggest that this guy was no sort of professional at all.

I posted the pic as a good example of poor pipe bending. I sincerely hope that the only person who get offended is the nincompoop who did this hack job! :-)

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