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#105999 - 09/16/05 03:48 PM UK Office Wiring  
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These are some pictures from my collection. all taken in a UK office. The last one was said to be acceptable by the telco company, it has since been sorted out. The first 3 are above a T-Bar suspended ceiling, this has now been fixed using klik plug on roses.

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#106000 - 09/16/05 04:16 PM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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This just goes to show you, no matter how far of a geographical seperation there is between us, people (and Hacks) are the same everywhere. [Linked Image]

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#106001 - 09/17/05 12:07 AM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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I don't get it that telco install looks like the standard in NYC.
You guys actually had them come in and clean that up ??
Who do you guys know ??


#106002 - 09/17/05 02:47 AM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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Same old thing Roger,
Just different connectors.
Any Telecoms tech here would scream at work like that.
Rough as!. [Linked Image]
I'm only an Electrician and I know of good wire lay practice.
I'd be interested in what PaulUK has to say about this?.


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#106003 - 09/17/05 11:35 AM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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We paid the telco company to come in and identify the lines, some were standard phone lines, some were killostream and framestream lines and isdn30e lines. They also ran a 40 pair cable from there to the comms room. Then I had to move the lines over from the old stuff to the new cables which then used the cat5 cabling for the phone lines. I have some photos of what it looks like now somewhere.

The lighting has been sorted but we thought the other ceilings were probably in a similar state so we had someone check them and they were, so they are all being sorted. we found some .75mm flex twisted onto the 1.5mm solid cables. it is amazing what a suspended ceiling can hide!


I took my time, I hurried up, The choice was mine, I didn't think enough

#106004 - 09/17/05 12:22 PM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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I wouldn't want my name put on that tele wiring, that's for sure. Even the mess of jumpers on the MDF of a telephone exchange can look neater than that.

As for the lighting wiring, it looks about typical. [Linked Image] What was the extra wire tapped from the neutral on pic #3 for? [Linked Image]


#106005 - 09/17/05 01:00 PM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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Virtually every telco street cabinet around here looks like that inside... no, usually they're worse!


#106006 - 09/17/05 01:11 PM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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that neutral was a single insulated piece of 2.5mm cable which linked over to another light in what is one of the many extensions, you can see the rsj it passes under. Unbelieveably it was to replace a lost neutral but not only were the other lights on another circuit but it was on a totally different fusebox! They are all fuseboxes, wylex wooden ones to be exact. They are in an ok condition and we arent in a position to replace them at present. Things are improving though, slowly.

The phone wiring was made worse by Smart Boxes for least cost routing. you can see the bits of paper labelling things for them and there are pegs to remove to disable the Smartboxes. All of this is now obsolete as we use CPS instead


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#106007 - 09/19/05 08:05 AM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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I had a horrible feeling that extra wire was being used for something it really shouldn't have been!

By the way, for non U.K. readers, RSJ = Rolled Steel Joist.

Those Wylex standard range panels are still everywhere. The only thing to watch with the older wood-frame types is that they were open-backed, and you sometimes see them installed with no backing plate on an unsuitable surface.


#106008 - 09/21/05 05:15 PM Re: UK Office Wiring  
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I have taken some 'after' pictures of what has happened and some other fine examples of craftmanship. The pictures of the fuseboxes and dis boards are where the lighting is fed from, well some of it at least. the white cable is for the CH programmer in the one with the fused switches.

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