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See anything wrong here? #105316 09/06/04 06:43 AM
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Re: See anything wrong here? #105317 09/06/04 07:04 AM
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Megawatt Offline
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Where do You start ?? Must not own any side cutters !
Around here, I would install a Disc, & run flex to the Waterheater. Makes a nice looking installation.
Is the romex #10 ??

Re: See anything wrong here? #105318 09/06/04 08:35 AM
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How could anyone walk away from this? [Linked Image]


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Re: See anything wrong here? #105319 09/06/04 08:44 AM
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Always nice to leave the covers off of the elements. No one would ever put their hand near there.

Re: See anything wrong here? #105320 09/06/04 09:07 AM
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iwire Offline
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Do we know this is complete?

The breaker can be the disconnect.

It is tough to give answers without knowing the details.

Bob


Bob Badger
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Re: See anything wrong here? #105321 09/06/04 09:12 AM
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Bob:

This work was what the AHJ found during the Final.

Your opinion of what you see wrong here will be appreciated.


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Re: See anything wrong here? #105322 09/06/04 10:38 AM
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iwire Offline
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Well if this is what it looked for the final the inspector should fail it.

The only reason I can say for sure would be lack of support of the NM 334.30 and the open cover that Capt. Al mentioned 110.27(A).

The other issues, correct wire temp rating and lack of disconnect can not be commented on from this picture alone.

Bob


Bob Badger
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Re: See anything wrong here? #105323 09/06/04 10:44 AM
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Joe Tedesco Offline OP
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Bob: Discussion!

That's healthy, and that is what we do here!

I make comments all of the time to help people understand the subject of the installation.

Pictures are always helpful, but cannot show every single item.


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Re: See anything wrong here? #105324 09/06/04 10:46 AM
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Without knowing the conductr size, here's a quick take...

Failure to secure NM cable within appropriate distance... (336-18 '96 NEC)

Failure to secure/support NM cable @ required intervals along run...(336-18 '96 NEC)

Failure to protect NM cable from physical damage... (336-6(b) '96 NEC)

Unprotected access to equipment (failure to install in an approved manner)... (422-6 '96 NEC)

Re: See anything wrong here? #105325 09/06/04 10:57 AM
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iwire Offline
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Doug you are Chicago sparky right? As such you may not be used to seeing NM but it is often run exposed.

In my opinion if it was supported properly without the loop to the floor, physical damage would not be an issue at least here in MA and RI. [Linked Image]


Bob Badger
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