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Recycled Image from the past! #104983 03/13/04 05:05 PM
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Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104984 03/14/04 03:57 PM
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how did they manage to overheat _all_ neutrals?

Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104985 03/17/04 11:52 AM
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Megawatt Offline
How about a grounding bushing on that RGS entering the panel ??

Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104986 03/17/04 03:43 PM
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Jps1006 Offline
Is this the result of harmonic currents?

What is this panel feeding?

Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104987 03/17/04 04:17 PM
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mamills Offline
Looking closely at the several neutral busses here, it appears that the burn/overheat marks are on the conductors which are attached to the top-most buss (the one closest to the breakers). I wonder if a poor connection exists where the two phillips screws connect this buss to the rest of the neutral assembly, causing this entire buss to heat up? [Linked Image]

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Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104988 03/20/04 08:01 AM
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PCBelarge Offline
Something here is definitely wrong. Not only the neutral connections to the bus, but even along the length of some of the conductors, it is discolored. HMMMM!!
I am curious what is causing this.


Pierre Belarge
Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104989 03/20/04 11:01 PM
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crash Offline
It looks like there are several ground wires terminated on the neutral buss, including the ground wire from the UF cable that was in the same conduit as the feeders.

Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104990 04/11/04 05:46 PM
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Ryan_J Offline
I also was thinking triplen harmonics, but I assume this is a dwelling, and circuit 3 is a GFCI. What non-linear load(s) would you have on a GFCI circuit?

Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104991 04/30/04 11:01 AM
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Theelectrikid Offline
The overheated neutral bus bar and discolored wires aren't the only problems...

Where the heck's the main breaker?

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Re: Recycled Image from the past! #104992 04/30/04 12:23 PM
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Lostazhell Offline
First off, Welcome to ECN! [Linked Image]

Chances are, the main overcurrent protection (breaker) is at the source for this panel.. In the eastern side of the USA, it seems to be popular, if not universal to have the power co.'s meter outside with a main disconnect.. This in-turn feeds to a distribution panel elsewhere.. (usually a garage or basement, which is what you see here... Protection from overloads for this type of panel would be at the source it was powered from.. (Main disconnect, branch circuit feed from another panel, etc.)


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