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Bucket Used as Underground J-Box #103303
06/22/02 05:12 PM
06/22/02 05:12 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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This bucket was used as a junction box for some pole lights located at a hospital.

They needed power to supply an emergency entrance sign, so they notched the top of a 2 inch conduit, and then pulled the wires out to feed it!
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Re: Bucket Used as Underground J-Box #103304
06/22/02 08:27 PM
06/22/02 08:27 PM
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pauluk  Offline
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I wonder what the maximum wire-fill would be for this ingenious junction box. I don't suppose the NEC has a table to cover it! [Linked Image]

Re: Bucket Used as Underground J-Box #103305
06/22/02 08:49 PM
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Bjarney  Offline
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It works out to 223 8-AWG THWNs for bucket fill; but reduce that to 118 for 2ΒΌ gallons of cooling water per NEC 967.229(c)II(1a)v7.

Re: Bucket Used as Underground J-Box #103306
06/22/02 09:46 PM
06/22/02 09:46 PM
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Roger  Offline
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Why didn't they remove a section of the 1.5" or 2" conduit and put two 90's on. This apears to be a quasite type box and in reality would not need an expensive divider installed. [Linked Image] If they were trying to seperate systems per 517.30(C) they crossed over anyways, not to mention being in the same raceway. The quasite box would have been legal if it were Normal, Critical, or Life Safety branches exclusively, or Normal and Equipment branches combined.

Roger



[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 06-22-2002).]

Re: Bucket Used as Underground J-Box #103307
06/24/02 07:43 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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Aha!

After 4 days of searching, the new helper finally found that "bucket of amps".


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