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#103136 05/01/02 09:02 PM
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Pictures show a very interesting panel to work on. The soffit built so you can open the panel door is just big enough so you can open the door.

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As you can see in the photos the top screws are loose, can you blame the last electrician for leaving them loose?

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You also can just barely read in the photo the working clearance label pasted to the cover of this panel stating the 36" clear working space rule.

Brian


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It looks to me like that panel was installed with the file cabinets there. Why else would they have put it so high? You can blame the building owner for wanting a panel there. But what type of electrician would put a panel in there above the filing cabinets?
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I suppose we should be grateful that the panel will still open.

I often find panels here where somebody has built a cupboard, shelf, or whatever right across the top half so that it's impossible to take the cover off. Just done a panel change at such a house and I had to dismantle a kitchen cupboard and take it completely off the wall just to be able to get a screwdriver into the terminals.


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The panel was there before the file cabinets. The reason I guess the panel is so high is because this area had a higher ceiling at one time before the drop ceiling was put in. This violates 380.8 with out a question. You want to talk about a mess after a remodel, you don't even want to see what is above this ceiling! Just imagine your worst electrical nightmare and you are getting the picture!..........Brian

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How about some pictures of above the ceiling??? You know you can't say "electrical nighmare" on this forum without everyone asking for more! [Linked Image]


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I was going to try to take some but I am not sure how they will turn out in the dark up above. There are a few good ones that I can maybe drag a quartz light up there and snap a few photos. I may get back to that job next week...........Brian

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Do these jobs actually pass inspection ? This is reminiscant of the Brick wall that was built in the family where they walled in the service panel, save for a small access hole with a wooden door on it.
What about the 6 foot. 7inch rule to the top of the breaker handle.
-Mark


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