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#102945 11/30/01 11:10 PM
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#102946 12/01/01 01:18 AM
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Looks like somebody tried to install 20A inline fuse links on a 15/20A dual-rated receptacle. Not exactly accessible, are they.

With two fuses, they either have a 3-wire split receptacle, or heaven forbid, they fused the neutral.

I can only imagine what might be upstream from this.

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Brian

#102947 12/01/01 10:42 PM
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Joe,
Is this inside of a Sub Panel, or is that Zinsco 20/20 inside of something else [maybe a "Spiderbox"], used to protect that 20 amp Receptacle???

Either way, one can only ponder "Whadda Heck Was That Joker Thinking!?!?!"

Imagine someone sticking their finger in there to throw the Breakers' Handle[s]!
That was sure nice of the Installer to leave "Access" on the side of the Receptacle with the Ungrounded Conductors' Terminations!
[pending the Receptacle is wired correctly [Linked Image]]
Need to include a little bit of risk with all installations [Linked Image]

Keep those Popsicle Sticks, Maynard - We will need them to turn on/off the breakers
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#102948 12/02/01 01:09 AM
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Where do you guys see wires? [Linked Image]

Joe,

If this isn't a trick photo I have no ideas.
[Linked Image]!!

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#102949 12/02/01 02:03 AM
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Bill,

You got me there!!! [Linked Image]

Once again I Ass_U_Me_d [ [Linked Image]] this was an active outlet.

Good call!

Joe,

What's the verdict here??? [Linked Image]

Scott SET


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#102950 12/02/01 09:41 AM
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[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
Looks like they have started to clean up this mess! I found these in my mailbox and they were from Alaska.

[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 03-05-2002).]


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#102951 12/03/01 08:38 AM
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Pardon my ignorance, but it looks like mini-breakers to me. You know the 1/2" size. I'm not sure of this fuse holder talk.

#102952 12/03/01 09:31 PM
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Those are old Zinsco or GTE/Sylvania twin CBs. I've even seen these with a stab connection for the wire similar to a stab-in receptacle. Also heard (maybe true, maybe not) that these are right behind FPE's for the "no blow" characteristics. Fortunately, they're long discontinued.

#102953 03/08/02 07:29 PM
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You cut and pasted that right. [Linked Image]

#102954 03/08/02 09:37 PM
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Joe
Those are breakers ? Wow, and I thought they were shims to assure the receptacle didnt move.
-Mark-

#102955 03/24/02 02:15 AM
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That sure is a hell of a lot cheaper than a weatherproof subpanel.
Jay

#102956 04/10/02 11:15 PM
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War story: In the photo of the two receptacles in corroded 'bell' boxes, the right locking receptacle was used almost universally on construction sites (up to early seventies.) At that time usually two were mounted side-by-side on a temporary power pole, with one labeled '110V' and one '220V.' (Honest) The manufacturers' rating was 20-amp 125/250-volt 3-pole 3-wire. (I think one type was a Hubbell 7310.) The keyed blade was used for the equipment ground, even though its associated screw head was NOT green and NOT a hex head. It was common to lay out TWO cords--12/3 SO side-by-side, and each crew had their own wye adapter to feed their tools. And yes, there were incidents of plugging into the wrong cord. At least most power-tool housings were grounded. :-) Stranger yet, in many plants there were locking three- and four-blade wiring devices that had ratings like “20A 250V / 15A 600V.” :-( So much for ”the good ol’ days.”

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