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#100374 12/19/06 04:16 PM
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I have delt with this several times. Same case scenario you speak of.
Tub with a one foot tile area extending from one tile length above the top of the tub to the wall.

I have never been successfull with getting this by anyone:-)

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#100375 01/02/07 08:38 PM
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so is everyone saying that a gfci receptacle on a wall perpendicular to the shower/tub about 1ft from the shower/tub is acceptable?

#100376 01/02/07 08:53 PM
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This subject needs some serious thought. I learned just yestrday that at least one Japanese firm makes a TV specifically for mounting in / over the bathtub.

A very slow loading site, visit http://www.monotsukuri.net/japan/bathtv/bathtv.htm

#100377 01/02/07 08:55 PM
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Yes, unless it is a mobile home, than it must be at least 30" from the tub and shower space.


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#100378 01/02/07 09:23 PM
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I dunno... I certainly wouldn't feel confident installing a receptacle within reach from inside a bathtub.

[Linked Image from monotsukuri.net]

This ones INSIDE THE TUB!!

#100379 01/02/07 10:28 PM
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Different areas have different practices.

The Japanese are neither stupid, nor careless.

Remember, that pic is of a Japanese appliance, in a Japanese home setting. We do not know what practices there might be, that led them to consider this appropriate.

Please note that the text in that web site make reference to the fact that the Japanese use their tubs in a manner quite different from ours.


If they have found a 'safe' way to do this ... sooner or later we will be faced with the same issues.

#100380 01/02/07 10:35 PM
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When I read 2005 406.8(C) I am not sure one of those clock receptacles an inch back in the wall wouldn't be legal. Certainly it sounds legal to have one set back a foot on a ledge. You can have one a few inches away on the vanity side of the tub.
I like the idea of the "TV behind the glass" idea but I can't make a code case for it. Hopefully that new TV is certified double insulated and damp location safe.


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#100381 01/02/07 11:29 PM
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Anyway you slice it, water and electricity is the same anywhere in the world.

#100382 01/14/07 06:58 PM
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Hi reno

I wonder if that T.v. is Listed for UL in the US? I like the enclosure idea with GFI protection the best.

#100383 01/14/07 09:37 PM
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If you bought one in Europe it wouldn't work here anyway. We are one of the few countries who cling to NTSC TV.


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