My supplier dropped Juno last year and switched to Halo. I hate the Halos. Just installed 25 in a new house rough-in that were supplied by the GC. 20 of them were in pieces in the box. 16 were missing the nails and 5 were missing j-box covers. All of them had stuck hanger bars that fell off while trying to free them up. I used Thomas 6" IC cans on a church I roughed last month and they were great. They were also with in pennies of the Halo and juno cans. Given the choice, I'll use Thomas from now on until they go cheapie like everyone else.