Thanks Larry, that is actually one of the other things I was going to do tonight, everything is in a trough underneath contactors, there are more there than these but this is the troublemaker. It hit me last night I saw a big blue wirenut in there with a whole lot of neutrals in it. I'm curious also if some has put lv and hv neutrals together. And you are correct sir, mechanically held open and close coils, but old GE style reverse wound so it's on the same core
