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#99369 - 04/08/05 07:53 PM 2005 NEC On Line??
Joe Tedesco Offline
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Free Access to the NEC
http://www.nfpa.org/freecodes/free_access_agreement.asp?id=7005SB

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#99370 - 04/08/05 08:03 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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Go for it!

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#99371 - 04/08/05 09:47 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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The EE news group was taking about this. It is a Japanese site with the NEC and a rudimentry viewer from what I gather. I did get it to open and poked around a bit.
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#99372 - 04/09/05 01:25 AM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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I was also able to open it.

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#99373 - 04/11/05 10:55 AM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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The website is not offering official access to the NEC. I'm assuming that the NFPA will take pretty swift action to stop their presentation.
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#99374 - 04/11/05 06:30 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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Considerng the implivations of the Veeck case, this site may very well be legit...and not a thing the NFPA can do about it.
I expect to see virtually every other code to become available in this manner.
No man owns the law. Period.
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#99375 - 04/11/05 08:45 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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Interesting. http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/professorperritt/perrittamicus.html http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/241_F3d_398.htm

I wondered what Veeck you were talking about...it's not Billy.

I wonder how this will all pan out.
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#99376 - 04/12/05 06:04 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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Thank you, Celtic. I was not aware of that particular brief....and I once took a course at that school! Small world.

Also, as a member of one such "code writing and publishing" group, I would like to make the following observations:
-Their "transparant" and "consensus based" approach apparently has yet to include telling it's members what's going on....unless they want to skip work for a week (twice a teay) and travel to a convention...and pay thousands of dollars for the priveledge;
-They have yet to ask what I think about anything;
-They certainly never asked their members what their thoughts were before they filed a brief supporting the SBCCI.


There is also the issue of accountability; another such group (ASME) tried to avoid accountability when their members twisted their procedures to torpedo a new manufacturer...and the ASME found nothing wrong with that. (See Hydrolevel vs. ASME, US Supreme Court for the story).

As to those who claim that this will put such groups out of business...I canh only observe that Thomas Publishing, Commerce Clearing House, and West Publishing are all exceptionally profitable publishers- and all base their business on "public domain" items!
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#99377 - 04/13/05 09:25 AM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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renosteinke ---

West Publishing has value added commentary.

I believe someone scanned the West books and put them on CD. West sued and won. The commentary was copywrite West. That copywrite was the downfall of the scanners.
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#99378 - 04/13/05 06:32 PM Re: 2005 NEC On Line??
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Absolutely correct, George. Just as the NFPA has handboke, etc.
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