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#95651 - 09/25/05 08:26 PM splices
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Last week at work we had a problem where the carpenter installing medicine cabinets sent a screw through one of our NM cables and caused a short. My apprentice suggested that in lieu of tearing into a lot of sheetrock to re-run the swichtleg to the vanity light, we could just cut into the rock in the one spot where the screw hit, splice the romex there and be done. He said that there was a "UL-approved" splicing device, approved for in-the-wall splices, and that he had personally used one of these devices in the past.

My reading of NEC 300.15 would expressly forbid such a practice and I have never before heard of such an "approved" device. Anyone else?

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#95652 - 09/25/05 08:54 PM Re: splices
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You are correct. He is not.
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#95653 - 09/25/05 08:54 PM Re: splices
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There has been talk of this on other posts (possibly I saw it at a different forum, I don't remember), I think the consensus was there is some device but it is not for conceiled work behind walls.

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#95654 - 09/25/05 08:55 PM Re: splices
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He is the apprentice, you are not.

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#95655 - 09/25/05 08:58 PM Re: splices
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Tyco Electronics makes a NM cable interconnection device that is designed to be concealed in the wall. Care needs to taken that there is no violation of the NEC.

For more information on these devices see the following sections of the 2005 NEC.
545.13, 550.15(K), 551.47(O), 552.48(N) and 690.32. These are the only places in the 2005 NEC that permits the interconnection device. For more information see UL file number E57250.
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#95656 - 09/25/05 11:55 PM Re: splices
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I agree with Mike (JW) here, a few companies now make a listed in the wall splice for NM.

I suggest a look at 334.40(B)

You may not have been able to use these for the repair though.

Bob

[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 09-26-2005).]
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#95657 - 09/26/05 06:34 AM Re: splices
dlhoule Offline
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Iwire Just curious. Why would you want to fish a splice into a wall? 334.40B state you can do this during rewiring in existing buildings where the cable is concealed and fished.

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#95658 - 09/26/05 09:11 AM Re: splices
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I suggest a look at 334.40(B)


Thank you Bob I missed the most important one

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