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#90158 - 11/01/04 01:17 PM Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
mustangelectric Offline
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Hi,
Do I hear any AMENS to the following code suggestion:

All J-Boxes installed in an attic space SHALL be ELEVATED when they are accessible from the attic space!

I am sick of wading through insulation to find a j-box.

I have seen 2 feet of this crap blown in an attic!

I have turned down work because I did not want to wade into that...i have also lost some tools up there in that wasteland!

Give me a break!

-regards

Mustang

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#90159 - 11/01/04 03:16 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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This sounds like a proposal for the 2008 NEC . . . right?

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#90160 - 11/01/04 04:11 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
chi spark Offline
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Can't that be covered somehow in the concealed junction box section. To me insulation is a permanent installation and the junction boxes should not be permanently concealed. Try to enforce that with the insulators! If the boxes were to be elevated, how high should they go? About knee(*ouch*) high?

Oh, and AMEN!!
(edited to TESTIFFYY)

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#90161 - 11/01/04 05:02 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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As if the inspector is actually going into the attic.
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#90162 - 11/01/04 05:29 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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Why would I need to go to the attic? I can see a box at the rough inspection, and if it were low it would get moved , if this indeed were a requirement.
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#90163 - 11/01/04 06:20 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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Make it a habit of good workmanship and install all your attic J boxes high enough to clear the insulation. Those who come in after you will thank you.
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#90164 - 11/01/04 06:34 PM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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Are attic J-boxes really that common? I don't think I've ever seen one here.
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#90165 - 11/02/04 03:49 AM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
CharlieE Offline
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I was in the trade for about five years and have installed a few on rewire but I don't think I ever installed one on new work.

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#90166 - 11/02/04 04:58 AM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
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Ryan you have to go into the attic to see them. Seriously I find them (and install them) quite often in renovation work. I have yet to come accross an inspector that will climb into an attic, especially a dirty old one. As for crawling through insulation, it is unfortunately part of our job.
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#90167 - 11/02/04 06:10 AM Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility
mustangelectric Offline
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Loc: Bentonville, AR
Hi,
Thanks for the replies. A lot of homes here will have HVAC equip, lights, or additions over time..if you need to trace anything out by visual inspection it makes it tough.

Somehow I always end up in the attic!

not the end of the world I suppose just an idea.

-regards

Mustang

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